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Old Apr 27, 2007
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front leafs on dana 44

im am doing my axle swap and im getting further and further and learning lots, i am going with a dana 44 front with shocks and coils and a ful floater GM 14 bolt

but why on every ranger i see with a SAS it has leafs in the front, i thought coils get better articulation that the leafs WHY LEAFS??
 
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Old Apr 27, 2007
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Zach used coils on his.

i think alot of people use leafs because its cheaper/easier.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2007
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??? Im confused.. I think Ive only seen one or two on here with leaves...
zabeard is coils
bigranger is coils
badkarma is coils
ryanrebel I believe has done a couple coil..

I guess 034x4 is leaves and so is 2002fx4

theres a bunch of coil guys around..

but as for leaves: generally cheaper, generally simpler to set up,
coils: better ride, maybe better flex some leaves flex nice, more expensive, harder to get right,

It all depends really, you got any more specifics on your plan??
 
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Old Apr 27, 2007
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Leafs and coils are out...Coilovers are in
 
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Old Apr 27, 2007
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im with him^^
 
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Old Apr 27, 2007
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Originally Posted by redranger4.0
Leafs and coils are out...Coilovers are in

if you can afford it
 
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Old Apr 27, 2007
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theyre not tooooo expensive.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2007
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note the extra 'ooo'
 
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lol
 
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Im looking at 500 in Coilovers, and another 400 for the coils for them.
 
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not bad.

i have heard that coilovers are not the best for a DD though. could be false info
 
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not bad.

i have heard that coilovers are not the best for a DD though. could be false info
they arent any different then a coil and shock combo. They just have more adjustability.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2007
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I'm doing coils on mine, in part because I want coils, and in part because it's easier with my donor axle: a 1978 F-150 Dana 44.

The 1978-79 axles in F-150's and Bronco's have a two piece axle tube design. The "wedge" where the radius arms attache is a cast piece with tubes pressed into it on either side. It already is set up for a coil bucket and going to leaf springs can be done but it's less than optimum and a bit of a pain.

Other Dana 44's have no wedges (if leafs) or they have weld-on wedges which can be removed. This makes leaf springs easier.

But I like the idea of coils and for simplicity and low cost I'm putting the original F-150's suspension design on my truck complete. Later I will upgrade the suspension for more flex.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2007
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Later I will upgrade the suspension for more flex.
Just extend the stock arms and run a Heim or Flex Joint on the end....

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The arms look bent where they connect but they arent its just the angle from the picture.
 
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I'm still up in the air on the whole "coil vs. leaf" on my sas. I'm thinking 3/4 ton ford front w/ coils, and GM 14 bolt rear. 3/4 ton for the huge brakes. Then again, I'm also thinking just a Waggy front w/ leafs and the 8.8. Ah who knows.
 
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I know my truck isnt close to being done but these are my thoughts. If I could start over from scratch I would start with a Fullwidth axle. Either a D60 and a Built D44. Run a D70 or FF 14bolt in the rear. The small axles are nice to keep stock width but for my 3 link and coils its a pain in the *** to fit link mounts/truss/coils seats on them. But since Im going to go with Coilovers now the coil space is no longer a problem.
 
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brackets like this wont help you save space? this is what i'm thinking about running on my f250 D44, but shortened....
 
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It will but it also offsets the coils, and what if you dont want to mount your shock there?

This is what im going to run

 
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Old Apr 27, 2007
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that bracket just takes most of the adjustabilty that seperate brackets give you. Like my lower links will mout above the center line of the axle for clearance purposes.
 
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yeah i understand what you are saying, im just wanting to reuse the arms i have and close to the same setup... my shocks should in theory line up in the same spot with those brackets.
 
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Originally Posted by zabeard
yeah i understand what you are saying, im just wanting to reuse the arms i have and close to the same setup... my shocks should in theory line up in the same spot with those brackets.
you might run into space problems tryin to fit a truss for the driverside upper link
 
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Originally Posted by redranger4.0
you might run into space problems tryin to fit a truss for the driverside upper link

hmm how much larger is the D44 pumkin?


also are you making your brackets? or buying? on the frame and the axle...
 
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Old Apr 27, 2007
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Ruffstuff Specialties Lower mounts


Polyperformace Frame Upper mount


Ruffstuff Specialties Lower Frame mounts
 
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dang i should have bought frame brackets, would have made my project go much faster! lol
 
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Old Apr 27, 2007
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For what I payed, It was worth just buying them instead of making them. And this way they are garanteed to come out the same on both sides.
 
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