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i thoguht when you cranked hte t-bars you loose your down travel, correct? well since the kit improves your travel then it will alow you to crank them bars 2 inches and still have down travel, where as you have no more down travel with a stock suspension on cranked torsion bars.

yep thats right.
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t-bars are good for beating sticks.
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my only point is...

if you are going to call that lift 5.5", you may as well call any 3.5" spindle lift a 5.5" lift...
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i thoguht when you cranked hte t-bars you loose your down travel, correct? well since the kit improves your travel then it will alow you to crank them bars 2 inches and still have down travel, where as you have no more down travel with a stock suspension on cranked torsion bars.
Not true, most people just believe that because they hear it from someone else and think they sound smart talking about down travel (not a hit at you Zach, just getting tired of people spreading false information). Cranking your bars does nothing bad to your truck except binding stock joints and throwing camber off (and a stiffer ride, if you view that as bad). Things to be gained are increased height, such as Christian's "2" crank lift," and a much stiffer spring rate as well. When you tighten the bars, it not only raises the truck, but makes them stiffer so that it takes more force to affect them with torsion. This is why you will hear of people getting sagging torsions bars as a result of doing this. If you beat on your truck, you should do it because it will better protect it. This is why companies like Camburg/Weldtec crank the bars, because they figure if you're in there buying performance suspension, then you use your truck, so they stiffen the spring rate by tightening them so that the truck can take more impact and be protected better than when the bars are at factory specs. This is also the reason that these shops replace the coil springs on non-Edge Rangers/trucks when they install such a kit, it's all about spring rate. Most people don't realize that travel has hardly anything to do with off-road performance (within reason, 'cause it sure does help); it's more so what the spring rate is of the vehicle and the valving of the shocks (placement and size of the shims inside the shock body). With these three things combined comes performance. If you have 18" of travel with a poorly valved shock, it's useless.
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If you crank the t-bars all the way. Comparing "down travel" on a cranked truck and non-cranked truck. The non cranked truck's suspension will down travel MORE from ride height to the end of the shocks travel than the truck with the cranked t-bars. It does not decrease "down travel" per say, but it does decrease the amount of down travel from ride height.
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That just cleared things up for me.....
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OKay peple here it is.

bottom line, the lift kit is a combination of things. 3 inch spindles and upper arms and new shocks to adjust t the new suspension.the upper arms allow much more range in the uniball or heim and thus you can acheive 2.5 inches safely through a torsion crank(you shouldnt "crank" on stock arms cause you **** up the BJs). say what you want and give yur opinion on if its a kit or not but it is sent in the mail and you can get your truck up 5.5 inches. thats that. so yes they make a KIT that acheives 5.5 inches of lift for torsion bars AND coil springs.

thats it. you can run your opinion but weldtec gives a kit that will enable you 5.5 inches.


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