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you need to bring the back down some more. Either a fllip kit (which might bring it down too far in relation to the front) or get the Belltech lowering leafs

Otherwise that truck looks good, I like it
I actually like it like that(with the rear sitting a little higher)....i'm going to buy a nice bed cover soon(toneau cover* however its spelt)....anyways that could bring it down a little more just from the weight

BUT!!!!!!!

during my test drive i noticed my front shocks bottoming out over speed bumps, even at 1 mile per hour

I am going to order new shocks today and have them overnighted, but i need to know what kind to get, not the brand, the SIZE!

***does anyone know the difference in shocks between a 2001 xlt and edge?? I need to know this so i can order the appropriate shocks for the front and rear!!!***
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will this work with my 2 inch drop on my edge??? or strictly for 2 inch drop on xlt's?

http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...+-59469+-42643

http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...+-59469+-42643
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will what work there is TONS of stuff on that page click the link and find out. how about posting a part #?!?!?!
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will what work there is TONS of stuff on that page click the link and find out. how about posting a part #?!?!?!
ahhhh, sorry about that, it isnt letting me copy and paste the entire adress, hold up one second
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BEL 7070
BEL 7511

these are belltech shocks for 2-3 inch drop....but it doesnt say if its fo a 2-3 drop for edge's or 2-3 drop for xlt's

so will it work? if not, what should i get?
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FORGET IT! im taking the keys off and sending them back....what a waste of time this has been
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you waited 57 min and then flipped out because no one has sayed anything...dude chill the F*** out...

here's another idear...ASK RPS.com ....
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they pobably won't work. Those Belltech's are meant for the dropped 2wds, not an Edge. you might try and get the 'stock' height shocks. Again, I don't know for sure the actual Length. No need to send the keys back already.

Your best bet would be to measure the height your truck sits now...actually measure eye to stem on the shock, so you know what length they are at right now. THEN measure compressed and extended length. You'll probably need someone to sit (push down) on the truck to compress it, and then jack up the fronts a bit and check extension. That's the only way I can think of to get a decent measurement/estimate for the range of travel.

I think Toxic Shocks has a chart for dimensions depending on what range of travel you need and ride height, etc.

Hope that helps. Don't give up on your truck. It's lookin good.

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P.S. you might also want to swap out your factory bumpstops for lower profile ones, if you haven't already. That may be what you're hitting. Your shocks may not be bottoming out, yet.
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you waited 57 min and then flipped out because no one has sayed anything...dude chill the F*** out...

here's another idear...ASK RPS.com ....
no no, i wasnt getting mad at any of you guys, i was just mad that i had to buy shocks, but then i just realized something

i had told myself last night before i went to sleep that i needed to adjust the keys before i drove it.....to make a long story short....yesterday i had the front all the way down, just now i remembered that... so i cranked the bars up 1/2 inch and did another test drive and the shocks didnt hit once, even when i drove faster over the speed bumps....all is well now

and it sits exactly the same, looking at it from the side
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Here....this might help with shock length.
http://www.streetbeatcustoms.com/toxshoclen.html
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P.S. you might also want to swap out your factory bumpstops for lower profile ones, if you haven't already. That may be what you're hitting. Your shocks may not be bottoming out, yet.
i cut them in half, everything is working fine now, i just forgot to adjust the keys last night
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btw, thanks everyone for your imput and help, especially edgerat for all the good suggestions, i really appreciate it
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another good reason to buy an xlt to lower, to much of a hassle with those damn torsion bars.
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K...I'm glad that someone is actually talking from experience and not just out of their 'behind.'.
On mechanical things, I only post what I have experience in.

Want an engine blown ( as into pieces ) , bring it my way.
Want a tranny to snap its bell houseing/shatter its case.. bring it my way..
Auburn differentials? Send it here..
Want your truck rolled.. twice.. and then rebuilt.. sure, I've done that.

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I meant no offense with what I said in my previous comment. It was just an observation from listening to a myriad of other people talking about it. .
I would NOT suggest ANYTHING that has altercations on suspensions endless they have a warrenty ( IE: liability is covered ). If you suggest flipping keys, someone takes you up on it, you MIGHT find yourself in need of legal counsil.. Thats with any mod.. Certian people made me ' Hip ' to this thought when I was posting write-ups of nitrous installs.. Blowing a motor or unwanted ' laying frame '.. theres no difference.. Someone isn't going to be happy, theres no telling what they will do.

It's one thing to send someone a link to a part or a company that does it.. But with todays laws.. If someone altered ANYTHING and was injured or had colateral damage, the sue-you-crew would be knocking on our doors.

I'm in the process of having a set of CASE HARDENED type keys cut. I took hold of 4 of them and have them installed on one of my trucks and one on a friends. Were both into drifting and we're SEVERE on suspensions ( I would say more severe then half the offroarders on this site ) . *IF* we don't break them/they DO hold up.. They will be for sale in numbers from distributers on all the ranger sites. ( already have a dozen people waiting on them ).

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I'm sorry you had problems with your 'key' flip. Hopefully you got whatever issues worked out, and are rollin safe once again.
My issue.. the torsion bar has too much ' slack '. I went into a turn and clipped my outer tire. The jolt went to the inner tire which had ' grip '. With the key being ' flipped ' and not having counter-force or enough pressure from the bar being too slack, the drivers side came down hard. The retainer popped out.

I was fortunate there was a new ' curb ' there that stopped my lateral movement. Had to replace a LOT. I ( partially ) laid frame like ScottyG DREAMED of doing before he went lift happy.

I'm sure theres MANY sucess stories.. I'm a critic. If it can break I'm ' that guy ' to have it happen.

Jeff had simular issues with his Keys as well but no accidents... just ate a lot of tires, wheelberrings, rotors and had to replace his front spindles twice as the alignment wouldn't stay. The off-pressure caused excessive wear of his wheelberrings to where one siezed and scoured the spine on the front spindle beyond all polishing repairs could offer.
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Am i the only one who has seen or used these keys yet? I'm not a certified mechanic or engineer, but i would say there are as solid as they can get, and i would use them way before i tried to flip my stock keys.


On another note, something i was wondering about. Why does the ranger have torsion bar suspesion? What is the advantage of that?
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Only the Edge and the 4WDs have the torsion bar setup. The rest of the 2WDs have the nice coil spring setup.

I don't know what the advantages are to it, however.
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We had a discussion on Torsion bars about.. 2 years ago at the first ' big ' Centralia meet. About 30 of us were there..

Torsion bars are EASY to adjust and they are CHEAP in manufacturing cost/design concept.

Folks lowering a truck hate them. Folks whom want to do a REAL lift hate them. In all honesty, I wasn't thinking straight and should have bought an xlt ( IE: No Tbars )

I'd rather a solid coil-over suspension with camber/caster plates the T-bars.
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That's what I have now...a nice adjustable coilover suspension...hehe
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That's what I have now...a nice adjustable coilover suspension...hehe
i have a question about your set up...can it take a heavy load? Every now and then i need to haul heavy crap around in my truck and as my truck is now i am unable to do it anymore and may need to undo my small drop

i might even sell my rims/tires and do a small lift...i was just thinking about how more practical it would be for my situation, and then buy a mustang project for the side...for when i have the need for speed

i never seem to know what i want anymore
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i have a question about your set up...can it take a heavy load? Every now and then i need to haul heavy crap around in my truck and as my truck is now i am unable to do it anymore and may need to undo my small drop

i might even sell my rims/tires and do a small lift...i was just thinking about how more practical it would be for my situation, and then buy a mustang project for the side...for when i have the need for speed

i never seem to know what i want anymore
If you are worried about carrying things put a set of airshocks on, when you go to haul something just air them up and when your done air them down. With as low as you are, which isnt really that low for a static drop I wouldnt worry besides maybe trimming your bumpstops and a set of airshocks and your set. If you still have worrys maybe you should not modify the suspension and drive a stock truck.
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my coilovers are fully adjustable for height and dampening. When I go to shows, I usually have a full bed load, with EZ-Up, detail stuff, food, luggage, etc. I travel 1000miles roundtrip sometimes.
When I go on those longer trips, I adjust the shocks to be a little stiffer and a little higher. So, yeah it can handle the heavier loads, no problem. I also have variable rate coils so the more it compresses the stiffer spring rate it becomes.
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my coilovers are fully adjustable for height and dampening. When I go to shows, I usually have a full bed load, with EZ-Up, detail stuff, food, luggage, etc. I travel 1000miles roundtrip sometimes.
When I go on those longer trips, I adjust the shocks to be a little stiffer and a little higher. So, yeah it can handle the heavier loads, no problem. I also have variable rate coils so the more it compresses the stiffer spring rate it becomes.

with all that work to have coil overs, why would you not just bag it? Hell a bolt on kit if you were afraid of cutting the truck up.
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No bags...why....cuz I don't like 'em, plain and simple.

I will however be going to a shockwave setup, eventually, similar to 'bags, but also like coilovers....same but not, LOL
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dropped rangers: +1

Lifted rangers -1

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