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View Poll Results: What Lift should i use?
SUPER LIFT 5 17.24%
RCD 19 65.52%
HYBRID 5 17.24%
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those are not a requirement.....

that actually has been beat to death already
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Hmmm. I'm now leaning toward the hybrid kit now. As if I couldn't make up my mind already. Thanks a lot.
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oo and also what leaf springs should i buy cuz the ones on my new truck are kinda rusty so ima buy new ones and im wanting lift springs so i dont have to use that big of a lift block maybe just a shackle and stock blocks
Skyjacker! Deavers are good, but too expensive IMO. I love my skyjacker leafs...they ride sooo smooth!

As for the lift, RCD probably is a better system. i did the superlift for 2 reasons: cheaper and easier to install. I hate how it keeps the torsion bars at the same height as stock.
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ya exactly i think ima just buy the rcd kit and jut buy beefier coil overs with hyper coils 800lbs when the rcd's start to get worn bad and ill just sell them to someone who needs some..
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obviously you guys have to make decisions for yourself, but you guys should read those two threads I posted. I think spending that kind of money on a lift (RCD) is ridiculous (sp?) especially when you can get a superlift, buy your coil-overs and all the bracket's and still come under what the RCD cost's and it will ride better than a RCD kit. I'm all about getting the performance I want for the least amount of money.
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I've been contemplating the same thing for a while now. I've been doing a ton of research and I am planning on doing the "hybrid" lift.

My reasons:
-Cheaper to begin with.
-Won't have to buy new rotors, I have an 03.
-Superlift has some stronger hardware from what I've seen, shouldn't have to weld up anything bracketwise to make them stronger.
-When the time for the conversion comes, I can get what I want for about the same price as the rcd kit to begin with. Then I can sell superlift stuff not wanted.
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Found the RCD kit for $2,065 NEW at this site(On sale until Sept. 30), dont know what the shipping is, if there is any, so the price may or may not be more.

http://www.rockymountainsusp.com/fd4_Rgr98+.htm
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Found the RCD kit for $2,065 NEW at this site(On sale until Sept. 30), dont know what the shipping is, if there is any, so the price may or may not be more.

http://www.rockymountainsusp.com/fd4_Rgr98+.htm
I paid 2200 shipped for mine.
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Doesn't Fabtech make some 5" lift spindles for a 4x4?!





Anyways I vote RCD and Body.
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I wouldn't do a body lift at all. I think the space that results between the body and frame looks like crap and then you have to mod everything else with it. I don't want to be cutting and re welding hitches and messing with bumper mounts.
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That's alot cheaper then I've been finding. Thanks for the links, may change my plans. lol

Razorsedge, I've been checking your truck and stuff out. Your extended CVs, where did you get them?
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Razorsedge, I've been checking your truck and stuff out. Your extended CVs, where did you get them?
My RCD is actually the prototype kit, and the extended shafts were a one-off set that came with it. I couldn't tell you exactly who made them or how much it might cost to actually get a set, but I'd bet that it would be tough to find someone willing to make some and quite expensive to boot.
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Prototype kit?

How'd you go about finding that? Get up with RCD or something?

I can only imagine how expensive it would be to get a set made. The regular ones are expensive enough.
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Prototype kit?

How'd you go about finding that? Get up with RCD or something?

I can only imagine how expensive it would be to get a set made. The regular ones are expensive enough.

I bought the kit used. It was originally designed using Deserspive's truck, he's a member on ORR. If you could a hold of him he could probably provide some insight on the extended shafts, but I don't think he's active on there anymore so it might take a good bit of luck to contact the guy!
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Thanks for the info. Awesome truck btw, been going through your threads. Great work.


Not trying to get off topic, but... the RCD kit is not compatible with pulse vacuum hubs. I have an 03 shift on the fly, all I know is that they are automatic. How do you tell what kind of hubs you have?
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You have live axle it will work fine on your truck. i have an 03
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Thanks.
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found rcd kit at TRUCKIN UP down here in mobile and Jeff the guy who owns it is gonna charge me 1850$ for the rcd 180$ for BL 1275$ for 37x12.50R17 BFG M/T's 700$ for 17x9Moto Metal series MO951

and thats about it for the moment.. im still debating on just getting super lift then buying everythign i need for the hybrid but im just not sure.. atm his price for super lift was 1350$

only reason his prices are low is because i am buying all of this threw him and hes cut alot off the price!!
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thats cool!!! good luck!!!
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seed60 to answer your question Pulse Vaccum trucks (98-early 2000, they changed mid year 00) can use the RCD kit...."BUT!!!" you have to drill the holes for the vaccum lines ....OR you can get AVM hubs which convert your hubs to manual's anyway....so no need to the vaccum setup. Your truck how-ever has a live axle setup so you don't have to worry about it anyway.
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found rcd kit at TRUCKIN UP down here in mobile and Jeff the guy who owns it is gonna charge me 1850$ for the rcd 180$ for BL 1275$ for 37x12.50R17 BFG M/T's 700$ for 17x9Moto Metal series MO951

and thats about it for the moment.. im still debating on just getting super lift then buying everythign i need for the hybrid but im just not sure.. atm his price for super lift was 1350$

only reason his prices are low is because i am buying all of this threw him and hes cut alot off the price!!
I wouldnt bother with trying to do the superlift with C/O's if your running 37's everything else is going to break way before the RCD C/O's will.
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my RCD has given me lots of problems.

that little drop bracket everyone breaks?
yea when i dropped my diff today.. it was already split again.

not to mention i wore out the stock 600# springs in 4 months.. and i wore out the 750# hypercoil springs in 6 months.. but i dont think anyone on here understands what kind of hell this truck has been through that has caused those springs to get worn out so fast.


8,000 can get you a pretty nice SAS if you look around and your patient about buying parts.. hell i'm in a rush and i'm at just under 2,000 right now. but since your dad wont let you thats out of the question
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I wouldnt bother with trying to do the superlift with C/O's if your running 37's everything else is going to break way before the RCD C/O's will.
That's not entirely true, there are individuals who run that setup who beat on it (matt ) and there are people who have a different driving style and choose not to beat on it. Just depends on what type of driving he choose's when he has 37's. I've got 35's and my truck has seen it's fair share of trails and has been beatin on, and I haven't broken anything, other than a hub. Every person is different.

Matt I think has put his RCD kit through it's pace's and gone past what it was designed to do (which I think is a good thing) and has first hand experience on what the limitations are, what the weak links are in the system. Andrew I know you had the kit too previously...not doubting anyone here...just my opinion. Putting coil-over's with a superlift is a drastic IMPROVEMENT over just a superlift and still be cheaper than a RCD out of the box. And you can run 750lb coils versus the standard ones that come with the RCD kit. Which matt has already said had a short lifespan. Just my opinion.
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found rcd kit at TRUCKIN UP down here in mobile and Jeff the guy who owns it is gonna charge me 1850$ for the rcd 180$ for BL 1275$ for 37x12.50R17 BFG M/T's 700$ for 17x9Moto Metal series MO951

and thats about it for the moment.. im still debating on just getting super lift then buying everythign i need for the hybrid but im just not sure.. atm his price for super lift was 1350$

only reason his prices are low is because i am buying all of this threw him and hes cut alot off the price!!
IMO, I would not run the Superlift either. I really like the RCD, its got some issues, but so does the superlift. I think the RCD has quality brackets that are superior to Superlift. RCD does not have failure of sway bar links and other components. RCD has issues with coils and diff brackets. RCD is a good kit. But for some people they just beat the tar out of it and it cant hold up. the superlift wouldnt either.

I like your prices, they seem pretty fair. I would add the skyjacker springs in there as well to get rid of the blocks. 4" skyjacker springs you will run stock blocks yet, 6" skyjackers will require no blocks at all. its your choice.


you better regear to 4.88s its gonna be slow otherwise. Also you will need a new front driveshaft after a while with the RCD as well.
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this might be something to save up for
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