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View Poll Results: What Lift should i use?
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That brace just makes it so it keeps the drop bracket in place, and them being chrome, just for show... The RCD drops the brackets about an inch (Ask shane, he took eye to eye measurements with his truck and mine)... The superlift is nice... I'm more of a fan of the RCD... Get the 750lb coils and you can run 35's easily with no rubbing... 37's and you won't be able to wheel or flex much.

If you do get the RCD, whoever puts it on, have them gusset the front diff drop bracket, it's prone to break on the RCD, superlift gussets theirs, RCD didn't for some reason.

Ride quality is noticeable over the superlift... But unless you know someone to put it on or know a shop that will hook you up, it's gonna be spendy. With lift, install, wheels and tires you're lookin somewhere around $4,500+ probably close to $5k if you have someone do the BL as well while they're at it. Throw in gears and install on that and you're looking close to $6,400 or so... Just some figures if they charge a lot...

Honestly, convince the old man to have a shop do a SAS with gears... You'll be able to go big and with a shop doin it, you're likely to have some sort of warranty. Just research first if you go that route. SAS isn't unsafe and if done right is far superior to the weak Ranger IFS system.
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IMO, I would not run the Superlift either. I really like the RCD, its got some issues, but so does the superlift. I think the RCD has quality brackets that are superior to Superlift. RCD does not have failure of sway bar links and other components. RCD has issues with coils and diff brackets. RCD is a good kit. But for some people they just beat the tar out of it and it cant hold up. the superlift wouldnt either.

I like your prices, they seem pretty fair. I would add the skyjacker springs in there as well to get rid of the blocks. 4" skyjacker springs you will run stock blocks yet, 6" skyjackers will require no blocks at all. its your choice.


you better regear to 4.88s its gonna be slow otherwise. Also you will need a new front driveshaft after a while with the RCD as well.
Recommended Zach, not a need. I have 14k miles on my stock shaft with my RCD and so far so good...

Looks like my numbers are a lil far off! Oops!
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If he is not planning on wheeling much at all no need for a SAS at all. 37s are huge for a ranger, almost too big IMO. and ive got 37s for crying out loud! lol

SAS and great on the street is hard to accomplish. id rock the rcd and bl for a long time before id sas again.
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That's not entirely true, there are individuals who run that setup who beat on it (matt ) and there are people who have a different driving style and choose not to beat on it. Just depends on what type of driving he choose's when he has 37's. I've got 35's and my truck has seen it's fair share of trails and has been beatin on, and I haven't broken anything, other than a hub. Every person is different.

Matt I think has put his RCD kit through it's pace's and gone past what it was designed to do (which I think is a good thing) and has first hand experience on what the limitations are, what the weak links are in the system. Andrew I know you had the kit too previously...not doubting anyone here...just my opinion. Putting coil-over's with a superlift is a drastic IMPROVEMENT over just a superlift and still be cheaper than a RCD out of the box. And you can run 750lb coils versus the standard ones that come with the RCD kit. Which matt has already said had a short lifespan. Just my opinion.

thanks for calling me out


here's my suggested use:
Dirt trails
street driving

not suggested to be used for:
baja-wannabeing aka high speed on dirt roads with lots of bumps and large mounds...
rock crawling
rocky trails
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Recommended Zach, not a need. I have 14k miles on my stock shaft with my RCD and so far so good...

Looks like my numbers are a lil far off! Oops!
i had manual hubs and the boot tore and started flinging grease everywhere after probably 10 miles of driving offroad, it started making noise shortly after

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That brace just makes it so it keeps the drop bracket in place, and them being chrome, just for show... The RCD drops the brackets about an inch (Ask shane, he took eye to eye measurements with his truck and mine)... The superlift is nice... I'm more of a fan of the RCD... Get the 750lb coils and you can run 35's easily with no rubbing... 37's and you won't be able to wheel or flex much.

If you do get the RCD, whoever puts it on, have them gusset the front diff drop bracket, it's prone to break on the RCD, superlift gussets theirs, RCD didn't for some reason.

Ride quality is noticeable over the superlift... But unless you know someone to put it on or know a shop that will hook you up, it's gonna be spendy. With lift, install, wheels and tires you're lookin somewhere around $4,500+ probably close to $5k if you have someone do the BL as well while they're at it. Throw in gears and install on that and you're looking close to $6,400 or so... Just some figures if they charge a lot...
mine was $5500 with tires/wheels/gears/ lift all installed

750 was a bit stiff at first but they're real nice now. as for not rubbing, i'll get you a few pictures of my fenders.. they rub trust me

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If he is not planning on wheeling much at all no need for a SAS at all. 37s are huge for a ranger, almost too big IMO. and ive got 37s for crying out loud! lol

SAS and great on the street is hard to accomplish. id rock the rcd and bl for a long time before id sas again.
i wouldnt, i wish i had done the SAS when i did the RCD..
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thanks for calling me out


here's my suggested use:
Dirt trails
street driving

not suggested to be used for:
baja-wannabeing aka high speed on dirt roads with lots of bumps and large mounds...
rock crawling
rocky trails
duh! funny you say that about street driving, yours is a DD, how do you get to school?
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i wouldnt, i wish i had done the SAS when i did the RCD..
you havent done one yet! how can you say that.

sure your in the process but stuff is gonna break on that too! it happens and will always happen. you have too much skinny pedal and cant seem to think what will happen if you do something. one day you will learn.

by all means i hope your sas works out great for you, i am sure it will. but its NOT for everyone. I dont think anyone can recommend a SAS to someone else that they dont even know!

5k on a SAS ha, if you do it RIGHT its much more than 5k.
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duh! funny you say that about street driving, yours is a DD, how do you get to school?
of course i would recommend it for mall crawlin! its something its good at..

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you havent done one yet! how can you say that.

sure your in the process but stuff is gonna break on that too! it happens and will always happen. you have too much skinny pedal and cant seem to think what will happen if you do something. one day you will learn.

by all means i hope your sas works out great for you, i am sure it will. but its NOT for everyone. I dont think anyone can recommend a SAS to someone else that they dont even know!

5k on a SAS ha, if you do it RIGHT its much more than 5k.
oh i know.
and mine will be MUCH more than 5k when im done, which is no where in sight... hell im already 2500 in and the front axle doesnt have high steer, selectable locker, alloy/chomo shafts.. i dont have a front DS, i want to do another set of leaves after a while... i dont even have the rear axle built enough to put under my truck.. trust me i know its going way over 5k


the shop quoted him at somewhere under 5 to hang the axle and do the steering.
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well what is this guy wanting? he wants to go BIG, and most know being huge really doesnt work well in most wheeling conditions but mudding (eh)

so if he wants to go trail riding and mudding and use it as his DD for the next who knows how many years the RCD or Superlift kit is the way to go hands down. do you not agree? how can we recommend something like a SAS? He has already eliminated that from his options because of his dad.


Personally I vote RCD, like I said before
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of course i would recommend it for mall crawlin! its something its good at..



oh i know.
and mine will be MUCH more than 5k when im done, which is no where in sight... hell im already 2500 in and the front axle doesnt have high steer, selectable locker, alloy/chomo shafts.. i dont have a front DS, i want to do another set of leaves after a while... i dont even have the rear axle built enough to put under my truck.. trust me i know its going way over 5k


the shop quoted him at somewhere under 5 to hang the axle and do the steering.
its not cheap and its alot of work, he has already said a shop will be installing whatever he chooses. now imagine the shop cost on a SAS, 5k labor? maybe more who knows. plus the liability, i cant see too many shops doing a SAS on a 98+ ranger that is planning on having street time.
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yes, for DD and light trails RCD i agree 100%

i just wish I had done the sas a while ago.

and to your previos post also. i understand i will keep breaking stuff until i get out of the right pedal when im wheelin. the D44 will still be considerably stronger than the IFS
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yes, for DD and light trails RCD i agree 100%

i just wish I had done the sas a while ago.

and to your previos post also. i understand i will keep breaking stuff until i get out of the right pedal when im wheelin. the D44 will still be considerably stronger than the IFS
yep. i understand your frustration about your choices. sometimes you have to figure them out the hard way. but think aobut how you would have built it then compared to now?
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if i got the rcd is their any way to fabricate any pieces of the lift to add extra support and fix most the weak points i dont rock crawl.. mudding is what i do and this is southern alabama deeeeep mud

so if the rcd is the best then ima buy it after i get some ideas on how i could weld on supports to fix some weak points and yes im installing everything myself except gears..
i love installing lifts its better to do it yourself cuz when it breaks you dont have anone to blame but yourself lol just my opinion

but tire size... ya i wana run 37's or 36's woo not much bigger then 35's but theirs a guy on here that had 37's with a superlift and t-bar crank with no BL

and im going to RCD lift with 3in body lift so im betting i would have a little rubbing if i tried flexing but im not going to i just need added axle height because theirs alot of stumps out their and i dont want my front or rearend to be demolished
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on the stock ranger driveline if your gonna be boggin i wouldnt recommend anything more than a 35.. especially with lockers
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owe hell... well i guess this is gonna kinda ruin my build a little well i guess ill just run rcd+BL
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duhhhhh


yea long day
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has no one seen that he has a 2wd?
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I just got a 2000 ranger 4x4 yesterday for my 18th birthday wich sitll aint but 17 days away but... what lift should i buy rcd super lift or just hybrid between the two i have about 8000$ in the bank to beef this little heffer up and my dad wont let me sas so what ever i do with it ima go big
Reading the first post helps. LOL
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hahahah

ok dont read that, i just read the first post, he just got a 4wd now i remember, i was just looking at the avatar and said there's no way in hell thats 4wd clearance. saw 2wd in the profile and jumped to conclusions.
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haha ya i aint took pictures of my 4x4 yet but they look identical except my 4x4 is loaded with power windows mirrors and locks ha

but ima run 35's now because i dont wana be breaking stuff more often lol
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ha
then play nice.. i have quite the list of carnage.


if i had to do it again.. i would probably do it the same, just recommend leaving the front diff open to reduce breakage
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ooo... you wouldnt have locked the front end? because id figured that would got you outta alot more situations...

and plus having 4x4 doesnt mean it has to be used 24-7 i mean i started with a 2wd so i know what i can and cant do in LS 2wd and im pretty sure when i lock my rear in my 4x4 ima play a lil rougher i just need to find something that is almost like LS for the front end that wont be so harsh...
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no i would have.. i said i would do it the same.. but i would recommend not to for the average person


a front locker is a night and day difference. i was very impressed when i first put it in how much of a difference it made

when i went wheelin with Camodown and the park trail guide.. there were hills they both had issues on and i just crawled right up.
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ha alright well i appreciate it what locker did you use in the front end and what are you running in the rear? i was thinking of a air locker in the rear..
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Aussie locker up front

i just had the stock limited slip from the factory that didn't work for **** in the back.
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ya i got a 8.8 28 spline from a ranger that i got from a junkyard with the stock LS in it i got all new clutches and ect.. done to it and i put 4.56's in it and ill tell you what this lil thing will dawg ****!! i went threw some crap my buddys in their Z71's were like ugh... no.... lol i rarely had a time when i only had one tire spinning trust me i had about 2 people in the back of my truck watching and letting me know if it was working cuz i got a video of me going threw a hole and stopping in the middle and power breaking it and shooting up these monsterous rooster tails!!

lol thats how i tested my new 8.8 with 4.56's lol on my 2wd
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