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Softest lifted ride

Ok so i'm gonna lift the truck sometime in the future. I would love to roll 35"s double lifted but thats a long way away cause thats going to regearing. I'm going to go ahead and get a suspension lift but I was wondering what in your guys opinion was the most comfortable ride. I've heard AALs ride rough, so could I just go with shackles? Would shackles plus the stock blocks give me enough lift to still equal a spindle up front? I want to run 33"s but still give it room to flex.
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I believe that my shackles gave me 2in,aals another 2, but ya aals do ride ruff. If you lift 4in up front you are going to have to run 2in blocks stacked on top of your factory blocks...unless you like the prerunner look.
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skyjacker, superlift, deaver, and im sure others make lifted leafs for rangers. you dont hafta stack blocks.

people run AALs cause they are cheap.
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Lifted leafs would be the best ride but the ones i seen on summit were $210 a leaf. A little more $$$ than i wanted to spend.
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deaver F31 leaf springs with your OEM shackle and OEM lift blocks (should be 2.5 inches) will give you 2.5 inches of lift. And depending on how much you lift the truck, you might be able to get away with just using a leaf pack (deavers, or whatever) and NOT run lift blocks, which will reduce or negate axle wrap.

OR you could do the cost effective spending and get 33x10.50x15s and run them on your EDGE suspension, which is the same as the t-bar 4x4 suspension. WITHOUT having to worry about flex! That is unless you're driving your truck at high rates of speed while going over significant bumps, at which point you'll bottom out your front end suspension cycle, resulting in too much up-travel of the tire and thus causing it to rub on the wheel well shrouding.

Of course, I've also argued with you over this before. So, for the 3rd (???, maybe 4th?) time, and speaking from EXPERIENCE with the SAME suspension, except I have a front drive shaft and transfer case, you can run 33s! I ran 33s on my stock suspension with just a 1inch t-bar crank from 8-11-06 until 7-3-07 when I put the RCD kit and deaver leaf springs on. FWIW, ride is a helluva lot better than stock, especially with the deavers in the rear. Softer ride, more articulation (flex).

Oh, and if you go the deaver route (F31 springs) Dixon Bros Racing sells them for $575 shipped. Of course 98% of forum-goers on here at too busy making their trucks look pretty and impractical, instead of making them useful and better. The only persons, aside from myself and off the top of my head, that don't fall into this are N3lz, Rwenzing, rngprerunner, and a few otehrs I'm spacing out on.
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I'm getting deavers when I get my RCD. Deavers FTW!!

BTW Lefty if I ever make it to Cruces again I'm hittin you up and we're goin wheelin......
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Oh, and if you go the deaver route (F31 springs) Dixon Bros Racing sells them for $575 shipped. Of course 98% of forum-goers on here at too busy making their trucks look pretty and impractical, instead of making them useful and better.

The only reason i went with aals and shackles is i did not have 600 bucks laying around to spend on new leafs. Hopefully one day ill be able to get a set.
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I'm getting deavers when I get my RCD. Deavers FTW!!

BTW Lefty if I ever make it to Cruces again I'm hittin you up and we're goin wheelin......
Stop being an eastern NM loser and get out here.....

ACTUALLY, I go out to carlsbad every once in a while. I have a friend out there. Not much wheeling wise there, but still a neat area.

EDIT: Give me enough notice too and I'll see if I can get time off. My normal days off are Mon and Tues, but I have students working under me now and so long as my animals at work are covered I can pretty much get the time off.
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The only reason i went with aals and shackles is i did not have 600 bucks laying around to spend on new leafs. Hopefully one day ill be able to get a set.

I hear and understand that. I'd been saving so long for the RCD kit and new rims that I wouldn't have afforded the deavers. BUT, when I was on the phone with RCD for ordering my shackles and a few other goodies to complete my used kit I asked about the alcoa rims. They said I could run em no problem, so I used the money for new rims on a set of deavers. And then I just used a month worth of savings for new rims.
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The only reason i went with aals and shackles is i did not have 600 bucks laying around to spend on new leafs. Hopefully one day ill be able to get a set.
thats why i didnt get the skyjacker springs too... the AAL and shackles dont ride too bad imho... unless i drive the truck right after i drove my benz
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Of course, I've also argued with you over this before. So, for the 3rd (???, maybe 4th?) time, and speaking from EXPERIENCE with the SAME suspension, except I have a front drive shaft and transfer case, you can run 33s! I ran 33s on my stock suspension with just a 1inch t-bar crank from 8-11-06 until 7-3-07 when I put the RCD kit and deaver leaf springs on. FWIW, ride is a helluva lot better than stock, especially with the deavers in the rear. Softer ride, more articulation (flex).
Ok man if your not going to take my word for it ask 05rangerxlt he saw the 32"s rub my front fender, he also saw my trim my front bumper and then he also saw them continue to rub after a did a lot of trimming. Running 33"s right now would absolutly destroy my front bumper. I think the reason this is is because my bumper got pushed back on the left side(where it rubs). You can tell its uneven. I know I CAN run 33"s but i like the look of a body lift on 33"s. I really dont wheel that often or hardcore enough to run Deavers or anything crazy serious like that. There is also no way in hell i would stack blocks, in my mind thats just asking for trouble. I'll just run a shackle and AAL and deal with the rough ride. No hard feelings man, I know your supposed to be able to run 33's stock my bumper just would not let me. But hey im happy with my 32s so that doesnt matter.
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based on your avatar, the problem is the offset of your wheels. stock wheels or stock offset wheels generally allow 33's to fit. low offset wheels screw that all up.
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I think it might be that these tires are 11.5 also, i bet I could run a 33x10.5, just not a 33x12.5. I didn't even think about that. Oh well no more rubbing once I get that body lift on, should be put on over Thanksgiving break!
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I think it might be that these tires are 11.5 also, i bet I could run a 33x10.5, just not a 33x12.5. I didn't even think about that. Oh well no more rubbing once I get that body lift on, should be put on over Thanksgiving break!
with a 12.50 you may still rub, but at full lock and mostly likely just on your sway bar (if you have one up front, not sure since you're 4x2, but 'same' suspension). As gumby pointed out, your rims might be the culprit. At which case, you might be good with 12.50s and a BL. I know with the alcoas and a BL, 12.50s wide tires will rub. DeviousFred on ORR traded me and some $$ for my eagle alloy 058s with 235/70r15 BFG ATs when he sold his 05 Level II back to the bank. In turn I got his alcoas and 33x12.50x15 BFG ATs. His sway bar was nice and silvery shiney from where his tires were rubbing, but the alcoas are 15x7 with 4.5inch back spacing, not sure of offset- if any.
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My t-bars aren't fully cranked as well so I know thats part of the problem. I highly doubt that they will run one i get those cranked and but on the 1" body lift. I wont run 33s without a 3" lift of some sort, just personal preference.
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