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straight axle help!!!

Hey i have a 95 ranger xlt, 5spd 4x4, i am looking to strait axel the front end... i am looking to find a jeep cherokee font end cause the four link all hooks up the same, but i want a bronco front end cause of the ability to re pack bearing and instead of throwing away the whole bearing and stuff... cause i know that is my only problem with the jeep's.. but i what is the best way to do it so i dont have to re gear everything?? let me know if you guys could!! that would be great!!
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uhhhhhhhhhh
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D30s suck, get a D44 atleast..


what do you mean, "all the 4 link all hooks up the same?"

gearing all matters to what you have now, and what you can find the axle with.
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well i mean i don't know about 4-link.. but i ment where the drop for the steering comes out if that makes since.. like where the steering all joins... i dont know of the top of my head.. cause i want to do the dana 35.. is what i really want cause 44 is to wide and i was gonna do coils cause i already have 6in lift coils... but then all i need to do is build my bars for my arms, and stuff... do you have anything done to your's??
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1) a D35 is a rear axle, only IFS and TTB junk uses a D35 up front
2) you can get a D44 from an early bronco thats about the same width as a ranger
3) you have radius arms, completely different design from the 4 link
4) i have wayyy too much done to list it here, i have f150 axles, jeep springs, yoda steering box, one off steering setup..


From what I've heard an early bronco axle is damn near a bolt in process on your gen. rangers... just gotta get/make a panhard.


mine's slightly modified.
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wait so if i were to just do a ford f150, swap... would i have to swap the rear, too?? i just dont know what to do... i mean i want something that is going to work the best... i mean i know the 35's some people dont like but i have never had a problem with mine... when i had my jeep... i wheeled the **** out of it!
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my other thing is, is that either way i have to make new stuff. im gonna have to make my own bars and stuff cause the way it's set up now anything i do i have to modify... my suspension... and i was gonna 4 link it it's the easiest thing to do other than leafs up front.
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you don't have to, but then the front will be wider than the back..

but i split the carrier in my 8.8 in half, so i sped up my process for getting a 9" and i hate c-clip axles with a passion. the Ford 9" is more than strong enough (so i've been told) for our trucks on 35s..


But i also have a trend of breaking the unbreakable sooooo we'll see.


my best advice would be to read the SAS build threads on here, therangerstation.com and go read some on pirate4x4.com

then you'll have a better idea of what you're getting into. Its not hard in theory, its just a TON of time and money unless you have some good hook ups..


As for leaves vs. coils vs. coil-overs... its all personal preferance, i went with leaves since i thought it would be cheaper and easier, but the way i did it.. I'm wrong in so many ways all my steering issues revolve around leaves.
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there are also plenty of TTB to solid axle threads on full size bronco.com
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well i was looking at doing the leaft but like you said you caem across that problem.. and well if i do coils, then just build the 4link... and it's just a little welding here and there.. but i just dont know what to do jeep/ or bronco... and what would i use?? like a mid 80s broncoII??
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research lol

a 4 link may seem like a "weld here and there" kinda deal but your asking for all sorts of issues with steering and all the stuff binding up.
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?? i am not seeing how? i duno tho i woundt be able to tell ya.. cause like with the leafs wouldnt you have more of a problem with the stearing?? i dont know im just confused... and like if i use the jeep font end then all the stearing will match up... if i use the ford bronco i have to get different stearing components and all that good stuff... i just dont know what to use..
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3 link it with a panhard. cheaper than 4 link and you can keep it low.

run coils you would be a fool not to, you already have the buckets for it.
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alright that is what i thought cause like you said i already have it... but what do you mean 3 link?? i haven't seen that... or do you mean the extended radius arms and then the stabilizer bar??

I mean like i have my lower control arms
track bar
but the upper control arm?? im just confused of how it's gonna go on??
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i think you need more researching if you are asking these questions.
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i think you need more researching if you are asking these questions.
I was about to say the same exact thing.
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well im just contemplating... cause im looking at it right now.. i know what needs to be done have most of the tools, just dont want to do it wrong.. that is why i need feed back... what people like better and all that good stuff... and i probably just wont see it come together till i get in there and do it.
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i don't want to come across as "that *****"

BUT.. you obviously don't fully know what needs to be done.
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oh no no i totally understand that is why im here!!! thanks!! but i actually just got it all today for everything... my buddy just helped me figure out where and what were doing. lol so i appreciate all the help, and i still have a lot to learn!
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Lets hear what your buddy told you to do
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well it depends on if you want to buy the kit or weld it all up your self.. i'd rather have it welded up.
lower control arms, upper control arm, track bar, new brackets frame mounts. and he was saying that i can do four link but it can bind up more often than not, and the three link is also easier to do. and it's handles better
but like i said i'm here to find out just in general what others like to cause i didn't know what one to go with... thanks fot all the help!!! and info!
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What SAS kit can you buy?
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well i mean iike i have to have it made as a kit from a shop here in twn.. but it's not gonna happen for a little while... i just rolled it today... fing around in the woods and caught my rear end on a embankment... shell be back tomorrow! :)
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Dude, you have no idea what you are talking about. neither does your friend. Read every sas thread you can find on fullsizebronco, Rangerforums, pirate etc. and then after you finish reading them, read them again.
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thanks!
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holyhell i just read throught this entire thread and my fawkin head hurts
obviously dangerranger u need to research on converting to a straight axle
second a fairly simple way to do this is get the front suspension and axle off an early bronco radius arms with a panhard coils ect. ect. ect.
really i think ur gonna end up with a death trap cause u have absolutly no idea wht ur doing and ur probly gonna end up hurting someone else in the prosess
but hey post up pics i promise i wont laugh that hard
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