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torsion bars...

ok this is prolly gonna dissapoint me but i have to ask...

i put the the superlift 4" suspension lift on my 01 edge and well as you all know the torsion bars hang down freakishly low. pretty much stock height when the rest of the truck got lifted. anyway, what i want to know is.....is there any way at all to raise them? they kill my ground clearance. i know i could just get bigger tires but i dont want to yet.any help or ideas are appreciated greatly...
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ok this is prolly gonna dissapoint me but i have to ask...

i put the the superlift 4" suspension lift on my 01 edge and well as you all know the torsion bars hang down freakishly low. pretty much stock height when the rest of the truck got lifted. anyway, what i want to know is.....is there any way at all to raise them? they kill my ground clearance. i know i could just get bigger tires but i dont want to yet.any help or ideas are appreciated greatly...
You're SOL. Should've went with the RCD
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You're SOL. Should've went with the RCD
i know this now...haha. sucks. but a friend of mine said that he heard of a way to hide them. guess not. damn this sucks. but im not about to spend another 2300 on the rcd lift.
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Rcd is only a couple hundred more than the superlift kit, new.
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yea....but ive already paid for the superlift and its on...
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^^ ha no way to change them.
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well for one your main problem is you have tires that fit on the truck stock with no rubbing... so you lifted your truck for no reason at all... throw a body lift and and put 35's on it and they wont seem as low...
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I thought they came out with something to raise them up or was that just for chevy's with torsion bars?
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That peice to raise them has been designed for pretty much everything out there but the Ranger. I contacted the guys to see if they'd make them, they had Zero plans to do so.

But, with the added cost of those, it would have been the same price or cheaper to do the RCD kit to begin with.
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get to buildin, let us know what you come up with

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throw a body lift and and put 35's on it and they wont seem as low...
seem is the key here. goin from 32s to 35s will only gain 1.5" of clearence under the torsion bars
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RCD for life
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the superlift drops the lower control arms AND the tbar mount on the frame.

also the tbars go all the way threw the lower control arm, so if you raise the mount, it will be at a big angle and wont go threw the arm properly.

Now there was a company that made an "adapter" that mounts to the arm and keeps the tbar in the stock location, but it was made for vehicles with the tbars only attached to the end of the arm...


Im sure something could be fabbed up, but by the time your done, you could have afford to sell the superlift and buy a RCD...


maybe you could contact RCD and see about buying accouple pieces to turn your superlift into a RCD lift, or find a cheap RCD lift kit used that missing some unimportant parts

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thats an option. do some research and fit a coilover in there...
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seem is the key here. goin from 32s to 35s will only gain 1.5" of clearence under the torsion bars
lmao

I was thinking the same thing but didn't wanna nit pick.
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well i dont really want to do a body lift. i dont like the way it looks and dont feel like going through the headache to make everything looking stock again. so my question now is...

for those of you sayin....put coils under there....what would i need? even if i did get parts from an rcd lift....can you tell me what i would need?
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for an eye-eye setup like the RCD you need an upper shock mount, and a lower shock mount, and a coilover that fits.
if you can find a pin-top shock that will accept coil over springs, you will only need the lower shock mount.
re-inforce the stock shock tower, or build a shock hoop dependin on what size shock you choose.

i cant say for certian that the RCD coilover would be a drop-in for a SL kit, as they use different drop bracketry, but it might be a good place to start your research.
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for an eye-eye setup like the RCD you need an upper shock mount, and a lower shock mount, and a coilover that fits.
if you can find a pin-top shock that will accept coil over springs, you will only need the lower shock mount.
re-inforce the stock shock tower, or build a shock hoop dependin on what size shock you choose.

i cant say for certian that the RCD coilover would be a drop-in for a SL kit, as they use different drop bracketry, but it might be a good place to start your research.


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http://realiftsusp.com/

get in touch with these guys.. see what they can do for you..
nm.. I actually read and someone has contacted them.. im a tard
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that is the part discussed earlier in this thread. they dont make a ranger application, and dont plan to.
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thats an option. do some research and fit a coilover in there...
and keep your tbars!!!
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fyi.. this^^ = retarded idea.. don't do it..
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dont bring that crap over here
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and keep your tbars!!!



dude...thats retarded....the whole topic of this discussion is how to eliminate the torsion bars. not keep them
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dude... did you even read under the pic????

and I understand the point of the thread/discussion. I offered a solution.. but it had been discussed already, my bad. To get rid the tbars means rcd like everyone has said.

the issue with the relocator is the ranger has RBV style tbars which go all the way through the lower control arm. You could fab up a relocator. you would have to cut the bar aft of the control arm, fab up something to stabilize the bar through the lca, put the relocator on, then reconnect the two peices of the tbars. presto. use some solid stock. problem here.. cutting the bar messes it up.. so yeah thats no good.. next idea..

Or RCD, but the stabilizer bars still hang down a ways, not as far as the superlift, but pretty far, and from what I understand the rcd stabilizer arms are some not so sturdy aluminum. Not nearly as strong as the tbars.. So then you run into issues again, You could fab a skid plate for the rcd arms but then you may as well saved your money. Or you could go custom and widen the lca and have a new mounting point.. but then money $$, may as well have sased it..

And jury rigging some coilovers into the superlift kit seems to me to be an inherently bad idea.. but its not my truck.. Id be curious how it turns out, so if you try it. post it up..

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dude... did you even read under the pic????
and I understand the point of the thread/discussion....
dont get tipped over:
  • most guys here werent involved in that discussion on the other forum
  • the pic you posted hardly shows that the t-bar is still installed unless one knows what they are lookin for(see first point)
  • why would you think an inside joke from another forum would be found funny over here?
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...the issue with the relocator is the ranger has RBV style tbars which go all the way through the lower control arm. You could fab up a relocator.... snip'd
welcome to last month.

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...Or RCD, but the stabilizer bars still hang down a ways, not as far as the superlift, but pretty far, and from what I understand the rcd stabilizer arms are some not so sturdy aluminum. Not nearly as strong as the tbars....
again, we all know the pros and cons of both kits, thanks. and you can keep your heresay to yourself, please. the compression struts in the RCD kit, based on weight, feel, sound, and the look of the welds, are most likely SS. granted still not the strongest material in the world, but darn sight more durable than aluminum. now, if a guy wanted to use them as sliders, they could easily be rebuilt with better materials and have no issue. i would not recommend using t-bars as sliders, as you hint to by suggesting that t-bars are stronger than the compression struts. have you ever seen a fractured t-bar? not pretty, and no way you are drivin it home afterwards either.

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And jury rigging some coilovers into the superlift kit seems to me to be an inherently bad idea.....
guys have been retrofitting coilovers in vehicles longer than you, or even i, have been alive. the only person in this tread that has even hinted at a jury rigged setup has been you. how exactly would a properly setup coilover on a SL kit differ from RCDs basic idea?
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hahaha.. sweet jebus.. Im NOT getting tipped over.. He suggested it was retarded.. which I had already posted originally.. I was merely asking.. I wasn't being a smart ***.. I was actually asking if he read that..

I don't get the last month comment.. whatever.. no biggy. last month this month.. who cares really..?

You would probably know better.. you've actually got an rcd.. so yeah.. if you say they are stainless steel.. then ****.. they're stainless steel. I don't have one, don't want one, so yeaiah.. your the pro. My point was. .that you still have those stainless-steel compression struts that hang down.. that was it. and yes Iv fractured a tbar. I walked five miles till we could get cell phone coverage and call a buddy to come get us. Water bar in logging road was a little deeper than anticipated...

And I offered my opinion.. retrofit away. Im saying I wouldn't do it. If I wanted coilovers I woulda got the rcd in the first place. Or sell the superlift and save some. If you want to do the fab work and put in coilovers why not sas?? But if someone does with the ifs.. cool.. props. Id like to see it. Like I said before.

And yes I realize most people weren't privy to the "other" conversation(s)... and I didn't realize you couldn't see the tbar.. I saw it fine. Besides given my caption "keep your tbars" and the coilover obviously in the pic.. I figured it would have been clear.. shucks.. you can see the label on the tbar..
and I thought it was funny.. apparently you didn't.. sorry.. from now on Ill ask you if you think things are funny before I post them.. I wasn't aware its an inside joke... why would it be? so what if it was posted somewhere else.. how much other crap on this forum was posted somewhere else first?? honestly.. tbars w/ coilover.. stupid... IMO its also funny.. I guess im sorry you didn't think so..

soo get your panties out of a bundle.. lighten up.. I wasn't trying to be rude or anything, I was offering my opinion and adding my discussion to the thread and I tried to make a lil funny.. big f##king mistake apparently..
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