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damnit! fine, ill keep the shocks, sell the rest :(
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Can I say I told you so?
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My 2 cents.

when you ease off or crank on those torsion bar adjusting bolts, you move the angle of the ball joints and limit suspension travel.

The upper balljoints are non adjustable. The angle of the upper control arm determines the pitch of the joint to the top of the spindle.

By either raising or lowering via the torsion keys, you imbalance the angles of the suspension and parts-wear occurs at a much more accelerated rate.

Lift kits compensate for the change of the angles between the balljopints and the spindle and prevent pre-mature wear.

I had custom keys fabbed for lowering and eat 2 sets of balljoints a year. Lowers are cheap, uppers can become expensive, not to mention needing an alignment when the uppers are changed. The same applies but in reverse to a lifted truck.
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d.'s right.

and from experience with a fabtech spindle and torsion keys, the ride sucked more than mazzman getting beat up by a girl . check out the angle of my upper control arm:

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wish i would have done the research. the ride was HORRID!!! i had to take 25 mph speed bumps at 10 mph. and the lean on turns came from my tires .

i don't know WHAT i was thinking running these angles .

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i fit 35's didn't i? and girls love BIG MEATY TIRES...
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^^full droop will be more angled than ride height....but i agree with ya nonetheless.
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HOLY **** Tim! WTF were you thinking?!?!?! I thought MINE was bad ( in reverse direction though )..
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d.'s right.

and from experience with a fabtech spindle and torsion keys, the ride sucked more than mazzman getting beat up by a girl . check out the angle of my upper control arm:



wish i would have done the research. the ride was HORRID!!! i had to take 25 mph speed bumps at 10 mph. and the lean on turns came from my tires .

i don't know WHAT i was thinking running these angles .



i fit 35's didn't i? and girls love BIG MEATY TIRES...
This should be used to make a new thread and stickied to the top of the suspension forum! lol, thats TERRIBLE!
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wait wait, so D. your talking about the torsion KEYS being that harsh or just cranking the bars AT ALL??? Maybe i should d-crank mine then??
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wait wait, so D. your talking about the torsion KEYS being that harsh or just cranking the bars AT ALL??? Maybe i should d-crank mine then??
The keys work as a lever on the bars themselves. If you want to ' crank ' or tighten them, thats up to you.

I'm working on eliminating mine altogether. Its a lousy suspension setup for a truck to begin with and a main reason why many people have removed them.
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The keys work as a lever on the bars themselves. If you want to ' crank ' or tighten them, thats up to you.

I'm working on eliminating mine altogether. Its a lousy suspension setup for a truck to begin with and a main reason why many people have removed them.
How are you eliminating yours?
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How are you eliminating yours?
Hes probably doing coil overs, thats the only way i beleive...
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I'll be eliminating mine as well, no clue when though lol
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So torsion keys are different than cranking the t-bars right. is it a spacer or something, does anyone have a picture of one so I can get on the same page
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So torsion keys are different than cranking the t-bars right. is it a spacer or something, does anyone have a picture of one so I can get on the same page
rangers with torsion bars have torsion keys. The key is basically just a lever on the bar. That is the part you are cranking when you crank your bars. But they make aftermarket keys that look the same but the hex shaped hole is positioned differently to make it so you can crank them more.
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ahh, so a normal t-bar crank isn't as bad as getting the keys, gotcha
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