I am new to this site and also lifting a truck. I was looking at the torsion key levelers and the add a leaf kit I saw on ebay. Right now I am only looking for 2-3". Is it worth it to buy this kit or is there something better on the market. I am not trying to spend a fortune, as I am trying to buy a house also. Let me know what you think. Thanks!!!!

 

You can crank up your T-bars with out the keys and get 1-3'' of lift out of it that way. Be aware that it will affect your ride though.

 

You can crank your t-bars to level and lift your truck but it will make your ride firmer. The eBay torsion keys over rotate the torsion bars causing faster wear on front end components. Not a good idea at all

 

If you use the keys correctly you should have no problems. Cranking your bars with factory keys makes the front end components wear faster.

 

They will allow you to over rotate the torsion bars. Basically when you install them at factory settings its just like having your factory keys cranked. But it also gives you the capability of cranking them even further which is where the problems start. If you leave the bolts at factory settings they're fine, its when you continue to crank them you'll run into wear issues.

 

people buying these keys are not looking to keep the bolts at factory position. they would just crank the bars a bit. these keys provide the capability for too much lift on the front end

 

Talk about misinformation. Using aftermarket torsion keys over rotates the bars and causes accelerated wear on ball joints, the hub assemblies, and cv axles. Cranking your factory keys isn't going to cause a problem.

Quoted from a guy on TRS who used torsion keys:
I asked him if he took the keys out because it looked like the LCA's weren't at much of an angle anymore and that's what he said...

 

tom i agree with you 100%

 

ok so sounds like I need to crank the factory keys, my next question is how do I do that and what do you put in the back to level it out or will cranking the torsion bars level it out?

 

[QUOTE=Toms994x4;1652200]Talk about misinformation. Using aftermarket torsion keys over rotates the bars and causes accelerated wear on ball joints, the hub assemblies, and cv axles. Cranking your factory keys isn't going to cause a problem. [QUOTE]

I disagree. Cranking your bars with factory keys WILL cause pre mature wear on front end components. Sure aftermarket keys can increase the wear even more when over cranked, but if used PROPERLY they should not cause anymore wear than cranking bars with factory keys.

 

I wasn't just saying that to you, it was more for the OP. But yes I agree that they're bad news.

 

i understand where it was direced i just dont want to see the op spend his money on keys when he can do a crank for free.


crankcthe torsion bars can level the truck. if you still want the back higher you can add a shackle kit or add a leaf

 

Is the truck 2 or 4 wheel drive? Have you considered a body lift? Or lift spindles if 4x2?

 

Ok. So here's a question for you. Why the **** are you going to spend $200+ on something you already have that you can adjust? Why not just crank your stock keys, which yes can cause premature wear if cranked passed what the stock bolts allow? Why would you go buy aftermarket keys that are going to go passed what your stock keys will allow AND ruin your front suspension? Did you not read what I posted from someone who used aftermarket keys? He regreted it and he had to basically replace the front end of his truck.

 

Its one hell of alot less than 200 bucks for keys dude. IF YOU USE THEM CORRECTLY THERE ARE NO ISSUES! Did you read MY post? Im sure he over cranked them and did screw his whole front end.

 

But why would you use them if you can get the same effect by cranking the stock keys?

 

Ok, if you're going to buy keys and you're not going to crank the **** out of them, then why buy them? If you don't crank aftermarket keys then why bother with them in the first place?
Trent, it's hopeless...

 

I would get aftermarket keys if my t bars were maxed out with the stock keys, just so they were not maxed out.

 

That makes no sense.

 

Ya I guess not...

 

well I wasnt trying to start an online war. All I wanna know is if I crank the stock keys will it lift the truck or just level it off? If it does lift it then should I get the add a leaf kit to the back to make it level or is that gonna make the back look higher. I am just looking for a level look that is a little bit higher than it is right now, I already put 265/75/16 on it so it lifted it a little bit. Just want a straight answer if someone has one, lol. Thanks though everyone for all your input I read every post.

 

i got my stock keys/tbars maxed and it makes my rear sit lower, but i would just crank yours enough to level it out because it makes the front end a alot stiffer and it wears parts out more.if you want lift, go with a body lift or suspusion lift, cranking your bars is really only to level out your truck

 

Cranking your torsion bars should level it out more or less depending on how much you crank them, and also if there is any sag in them to begin with, or how soft they are.

Main thing is make sure you get an alignment IMMEDIATELY after cranking torsion bars.

I have the fabtech add a leaf in the rear, and cranked torsion bars in the front. Mine aren't maxed out, and I still have some rake, which I like. Don't understand wanting a completely level truck, not how they are made to be, at least if you actually ever use your truck bed to haul anything.

I got atleast 3 inches lift in the rear and about 1.5 -2 in the front.

 

did the add a leaf make it more stiff in the rear?

 

Yes, that was an added benefit in my eyes, as I can haul more weight without the rear saggin as easily, it was too soft before for me.

Its all about preference. Cranking torsion keys is going to make the ride stiffer, but I don't drive a ranger for the smooth ride.

If you want a good lift with a smooth ride, get a spindle lift.

However no matter what your options for rear lift are add a leafs, or shackles. Shackles ideally would be a smoother ride than add a leafs I would think, and easier to install most likely as well.