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what t bar do i have ?

How can i find out which of the 3 t bars i have ?

*crosses fingers and prays they are 1*
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I thought they were all the same
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i remember reading about different stiffness t-bars before but i think that was only in f150s
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nope.. they do infact have different stiffnesses..

Check inside the door (the sticker).. it will have a space where it says 'springs' and under it, it will have 2 digits (the first one is the front springs and the second one is for the rear)
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i'm pretty sure there are three of them . 2 end up sagging and go to crap especialy if you crank them the other ones are tough and last a long time .
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im gonna have to check on that, if i have crappy ones then the stiff one are getting added to the mod list
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There may be three for Rangers, but there are actually more than that for Rangers and Explorers.

Most 4x2 Edges come with "F" bars -- the weakest.

Most 4x4's come with B, 2, or 1 bars. 1 are the stiffest I know of, 2 are slightly less. B bars are what I put in to replace the crappy F bars that sagged after ing them and thrashing my truck. The B's have held up just fine.

I don't know of any Rangers with 2's. Most are in fact 1's (like FX4's and tow package 4x4's), B's (most 4x4's I THINK), and F's.

The spring field on your door pillar sticker is 2 characters and the first one refers to the type of torsion bar. BF would mean type B front bars, type F rear springs.

My 4x2 Edge was FK from the factory. Crappy weak springs. BF and 1F are the most common on 4x4's as far as I know, but some have the crappy K rears.
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i just read under the spr it said BBCC i assume that means i have b bars but why is there 4 letters i thought there should only be 2 ?
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im gonna check mine when i get home and refer back to this thread in like a week and a half to check em
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i just read under the spr it said BBCC i assume that means i have b bars but why is there 4 letters i thought there should only be 2 ?
Could be they sometimes put unbalance springs on for some reason, I don't know. For sure it means B fronts and C rears though.
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I have 1F..

speaking of springs, John, do you still want the chevy springs. I think im going back this weekend to get my truck. My old Autotech teacher finnished it today (total bill was $500.. with free labor..) Let me know
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I think I have BF
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i just read under the spr it said BBCC i assume that means i have b bars but why is there 4 letters i thought there should only be 2 ?
Ford changed the notation from 2 characters to 4 characters, I think from 2004-on. The front and rear springs are computer selected based on things like wheelbase, drive, options, payload package, etc. You have the middle-of-the-road torsion bars (B) but you have the highest rate leaf pack (C) because of Payload Package #2.
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Bob, do you know if the explorer/sport tracs came with similar tbars?


i need to check and see what mine are, and was wondering if they are listed the same as rangers, or if they are on a different scale
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Rangers only use 3 (1,B,F) of the full Ranger/Explorer scale:

<-higher lower->
1 2 B D E F K L
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Rangers only use 3 (1,B,F) of the full Ranger/Explorer scale:

<-higher lower->
1 2 B D E F K L

is that only a front spring scale? or is it the same for the rear?
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is that only a front spring scale? or is it the same for the rear?
That scale is for torsion bars only. There are different scales for the coil springs and the leaf springs. I haven't been able to find those.

Late model Rangers use at least 3 different leaf spring packs. "C" are the heaviest and are often used on trucks with the optional Payload Package #2. They are also standard on Level II's. The lightest rate springs are on 4x2's with the standard Payload Package #1. Between the two extremes is a mixture of the 3 spring rates, depending on a variety of variables.

Since Explorers use a different leaf spring arrangement, they are probably on a different scale from Rangers anyway.

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I believe the other two rears are "F" and "K" (just from memory and having looked at other trucks -- it's not "gospel", lol).
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I have 1F..

speaking of springs, John, do you still want the chevy springs. I think im going back this weekend to get my truck. My old Autotech teacher finnished it today (total bill was $500.. with free labor..) Let me know
Yes, I'll take them Chris, thanks!

Hey, good deal on getting the truck fixed. I'm sure it'll be nice to get your "old friend" back, lol.
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Here's a summary of the springs that were listed for Rangers in 2003. Other late models are probably similar:

Torsion bars
(code / combined rating / bar diameter)
1 / 2900 lb / 1.09"
B / 2710 lb / 1.06"
F / 2510 lb / 1.03"

Leaf springs
(code / combined rating / pack thickness at axle / number of leaves)
C / 2750 lb / 1.82" / 4
F? / 2600 lb / 1.64" / 4
K? / 2550 lb / 1.60" / 4
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About how much are new code 1 bars?
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Mine is an 05 and says:

SPR
11KK

What's up with that? I'm asuming 1's in the front and K's in the rear?
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Yes, Dave, Bob actually covered that earlier. Newer Rangers have a 4 character code instead of 2 (pays to read the whole thread, lol...)
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About how much are new code 1 bars?
About $52 each MSRP from a Ford dealer. Online price is under $40 each but shipping would probably close the gap considerably.

F67Z-5B326-FA Pass side bar (1 code)
F67Z-5B326-FB Drivers side bar (1 code)

https://www.1stfordparts.com/
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I read that part John, I just wasn't sure if 2 1's meant 1 or some newer 11. Thanks though.
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