Would 2002 F150 SuperCrew Leafs fit our Trucks???
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So I picked myself up some things today.
2003 Explorer Sport 2dr 4wd rear leafs. Only had 63k miles on the trucks. (White ST cluster is in there if anyone wants me to pick it up for them to buy) I believe the SPR rating on the door was "15" meaning it had #1 bars (Which I can also grab for anyone wanting #1 bars) with a rear spring rate of "5".... Anyone know anything on that?
I've heard explorer rear leafs give around 2-3" of lift over the stock ranger springs and if that's true, does anyone have any actual proof? I'd like to see some before I put them on... So I know whether or not to use my 2.5in blocks I have in or the free 1in stock chevy blocks I got from a friend. The RCD AAL's are up for sale as well.
Also grabbed the leaf spring plates off that expo sort because they have the loop at the top for shock mounts which I think I'll try and use as a point for the ladder bars I'll be designing soon. Something similar to the JD bars, only off to the side a lil more.
Grabbed the shorter u-bolts from it too in case I need shorter ones with the block gone or shorter ones to work better with the 1in blocks.
Oh and I was talking with Shane about this one... I happened to grab a 2000 Mustang GT MAF and MAF Body at the JY today too. Had some questions as to whether or not this would do anything for performance wise or fuel economy. Neither one of us really knew. So what do you guys think about it? Will it work?
Total spent today = $60
Rear leafs
Spring plates
U-bolts
MAF
2003 Explorer Sport 2dr 4wd rear leafs. Only had 63k miles on the trucks. (White ST cluster is in there if anyone wants me to pick it up for them to buy) I believe the SPR rating on the door was "15" meaning it had #1 bars (Which I can also grab for anyone wanting #1 bars) with a rear spring rate of "5".... Anyone know anything on that?
I've heard explorer rear leafs give around 2-3" of lift over the stock ranger springs and if that's true, does anyone have any actual proof? I'd like to see some before I put them on... So I know whether or not to use my 2.5in blocks I have in or the free 1in stock chevy blocks I got from a friend. The RCD AAL's are up for sale as well.
Also grabbed the leaf spring plates off that expo sort because they have the loop at the top for shock mounts which I think I'll try and use as a point for the ladder bars I'll be designing soon. Something similar to the JD bars, only off to the side a lil more.
Grabbed the shorter u-bolts from it too in case I need shorter ones with the block gone or shorter ones to work better with the 1in blocks.
Oh and I was talking with Shane about this one... I happened to grab a 2000 Mustang GT MAF and MAF Body at the JY today too. Had some questions as to whether or not this would do anything for performance wise or fuel economy. Neither one of us really knew. So what do you guys think about it? Will it work?
Total spent today = $60
Rear leafs
Spring plates
U-bolts
MAF
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LoL I picked up some 4door 4wd expo leaf springs today as well. I got the old ones off but need drill out the holes on my ruff stuff leaf perches to make the nut holding the leaf springs together fit through the hole and have the leaf springs sit flush on the perch. I'll tell you my results tomorrow when I finish. I am running Chevy Drop shackles as well. Finally I can get rid of that stupid aal!
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Yeah lemme know if you needed to put in the block and what you used and stuff to gain your height over the stock height....
I plan on running the RCD shackle, expo leafs and the 1in block with the axle shim from RCD. Hoping that I either stay the same or lose .5-1.0in in the rear.
How many miles were on your expo leafs and do you know what code your leafs were from expo you pulled them from?
Also on the 150 springs guys.... The center pin is approx .5in further back from the static hangar (front hangar) over the explorer and ranger leafs... So this would in turn move the axle 1/2in back from what I assume, but am pretty sure it will travel a bit further and provide more lift over the explorer springs once the rear spring hangar is moved 1in further back.
I plan on running the RCD shackle, expo leafs and the 1in block with the axle shim from RCD. Hoping that I either stay the same or lose .5-1.0in in the rear.
How many miles were on your expo leafs and do you know what code your leafs were from expo you pulled them from?
Also on the 150 springs guys.... The center pin is approx .5in further back from the static hangar (front hangar) over the explorer and ranger leafs... So this would in turn move the axle 1/2in back from what I assume, but am pretty sure it will travel a bit further and provide more lift over the explorer springs once the rear spring hangar is moved 1in further back.
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I picked up some explorer leafs this past weekend too. Mine are from a 91-94 4 door 4wd, 4 spring pack (including overload). Dont know the mileage or spring code. There's more info on explorer leaf swaps on TRS if you search around. Most did "bastard" packs by combining explorer and ranger leafs for different amounts of lift.
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Yeah the rear end is still in it. They're kinda bastards though... You have to tell them how much you'll pay and they'll try to fight with you on price. Hold your ground and tell them it's not making them any money sitting there. They usually take it after that lol
They're down 3rd/99 on the left hand side... Bout 2 miles down 3rd after you leave the downtown area (on 4th)
They're down 3rd/99 on the left hand side... Bout 2 miles down 3rd after you leave the downtown area (on 4th)
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Feedback from TRS on the explorer spring swap done to a ranger:
AllanD Well after measuring several springs in place I have now re-measured them loose (as I dismantle the remains of my parts Explorer) and dimensionally they are the same as Ranger springs in the important dimensions.
End to end and Front Eye to center bolt measurements are the same.
The Explorer springs are three leaves and a helper, but the three leaves are thicker leaves, they should also be somewhat more resistant to fatigue than Bronco II springs because they are not as arched as Bronco II springs are.
BUT!!!!! for anyone out there thinking they are going to get 3" of lift out of them prepare yourself for disappointment. The Explorer gets it's extra ride height by mounting the springs DIRECTLY under the frame rail instead of alongside the frame as on Rangers and Bronco II's.
The only "mod" that must be done to the springs is the centerbolt must be reversed, the locating pilot for the axle points up for the Explorer application, it must point down for Rangers and Bronco II's.
If you are someone who would buy used springs you are far better off getting used Explorer springs as they tend not to have been "whipped" in service like Ranger springs tend to be. FWIW, the Explorer gets it's lift not from the springs, but from the fact that the springs are mounted directly under the more widely spaced (in the rear) frame rails.
The Ranger mounts the springs alongside the frame rails.
And while the explorer springs will lift the truck some, around 1 to 1.5", they really don't ride worse, in fact I think they ride BETTER, mainly because the rear isn't bouncing all over the place.
wht89lx - Maybe this will help someone out there.... I have a 1995 X-cab 4x4 Ranger.. and anytime I hauled a load.. the rear would squat Terribly !! I headed to the local bone yard and found a 1992 Explorer 4x4 4 door and had the rear springs torched off at the shackles... tossed the top leaf and used the 2 center leafs and the longer bottom (overload) leaf... made a quick stop at NAPA for some "U" bolts that are 2 inches longer than stock and stacked the leafs together.. I now have 5 leafs under the back on both sides.. (I tossed the short stock overload (bottom) leaf)...it lifted it a total of 3.5 inches and it doesn't squat nearly as bad as it used to!! The ride isn't harsh like the add-a-leafs... just remember to use a grade 5 or better center bolt that's longer to hold the leafs together. It works great and I bet I could easily fit 32's under the rear No problem!!! I 'm not sure. I didn't use the whole spring pack because the bolts for the shackles on my truck were very rusty and I couldn't move them. I suspect they could be torched off and NEW 'urethane bushings used to replace the rubber ones.
I tossed the Stock overload leaf from the Ranger. The Explorer overload was longer and thicker. I suspect its because the Explorer is heavier in the back than the Ranger.
AllanD Well after measuring several springs in place I have now re-measured them loose (as I dismantle the remains of my parts Explorer) and dimensionally they are the same as Ranger springs in the important dimensions.
End to end and Front Eye to center bolt measurements are the same.
The Explorer springs are three leaves and a helper, but the three leaves are thicker leaves, they should also be somewhat more resistant to fatigue than Bronco II springs because they are not as arched as Bronco II springs are.
BUT!!!!! for anyone out there thinking they are going to get 3" of lift out of them prepare yourself for disappointment. The Explorer gets it's extra ride height by mounting the springs DIRECTLY under the frame rail instead of alongside the frame as on Rangers and Bronco II's.
The only "mod" that must be done to the springs is the centerbolt must be reversed, the locating pilot for the axle points up for the Explorer application, it must point down for Rangers and Bronco II's.
If you are someone who would buy used springs you are far better off getting used Explorer springs as they tend not to have been "whipped" in service like Ranger springs tend to be. FWIW, the Explorer gets it's lift not from the springs, but from the fact that the springs are mounted directly under the more widely spaced (in the rear) frame rails.
The Ranger mounts the springs alongside the frame rails.
And while the explorer springs will lift the truck some, around 1 to 1.5", they really don't ride worse, in fact I think they ride BETTER, mainly because the rear isn't bouncing all over the place.
wht89lx - Maybe this will help someone out there.... I have a 1995 X-cab 4x4 Ranger.. and anytime I hauled a load.. the rear would squat Terribly !! I headed to the local bone yard and found a 1992 Explorer 4x4 4 door and had the rear springs torched off at the shackles... tossed the top leaf and used the 2 center leafs and the longer bottom (overload) leaf... made a quick stop at NAPA for some "U" bolts that are 2 inches longer than stock and stacked the leafs together.. I now have 5 leafs under the back on both sides.. (I tossed the short stock overload (bottom) leaf)...it lifted it a total of 3.5 inches and it doesn't squat nearly as bad as it used to!! The ride isn't harsh like the add-a-leafs... just remember to use a grade 5 or better center bolt that's longer to hold the leafs together. It works great and I bet I could easily fit 32's under the rear No problem!!! I 'm not sure. I didn't use the whole spring pack because the bolts for the shackles on my truck were very rusty and I couldn't move them. I suspect they could be torched off and NEW 'urethane bushings used to replace the rubber ones.
I tossed the Stock overload leaf from the Ranger. The Explorer overload was longer and thicker. I suspect its because the Explorer is heavier in the back than the Ranger.
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