why do you use a yota box
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I think they're inherently weak. I will be using a 1978 F-150/250/Bronco box which is much heavier duty -- though they are harder to come by. I did find one in good shape for a reasonable price though.
I think the main reason for the Toyota box, and by the way this has already been discussed if you were to search, is because it can be ported easily for hydraulic ram assist.
However, the boxes being used are from IFS systems which don't require the steering box to be as strong in certain ways. I know generally NO manufacturer designs something to be stronger than it needs to be, lol.
I think the main reason for the Toyota box, and by the way this has already been discussed if you were to search, is because it can be ported easily for hydraulic ram assist.
However, the boxes being used are from IFS systems which don't require the steering box to be as strong in certain ways. I know generally NO manufacturer designs something to be stronger than it needs to be, lol.
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Originally Posted by n3elz
I think they're inherently weak. I will be using a 1978 F-150/250/Bronco box which is much heavier duty -- though they are harder to come by. I did find one in good shape for a reasonable price though.
I think the main reason for the Toyota box, and by the way this has already been discussed if you were to search, is because it can be ported easily for hydraulic ram assist.
However, the boxes being used are from IFS systems which don't require the steering box to be as strong in certain ways. I know generally NO manufacturer designs something to be stronger than it needs to be, lol.
I think the main reason for the Toyota box, and by the way this has already been discussed if you were to search, is because it can be ported easily for hydraulic ram assist.
However, the boxes being used are from IFS systems which don't require the steering box to be as strong in certain ways. I know generally NO manufacturer designs something to be stronger than it needs to be, lol.
that waggy had dana 44's front and rear so do you think that is good enough
#4
your best bet would be a '77-'79 F-Series steering box.....they are super strong and can take a beating.....
i think most people use Yota because they are cheaper and a lot more compact than any other box......
you have to use a steering box that sits on the outside of the frame rail.....there isn't enough room on the inside of the frame rail on the '98+ trucks to have one on the inside....... (ha ha ha my '97 already has one inside the frame rails.....SAS would be easy for me and i already have the coil buckets!)
i think most people use Yota because they are cheaper and a lot more compact than any other box......
you have to use a steering box that sits on the outside of the frame rail.....there isn't enough room on the inside of the frame rail on the '98+ trucks to have one on the inside....... (ha ha ha my '97 already has one inside the frame rails.....SAS would be easy for me and i already have the coil buckets!)
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Originally Posted by n3elz
I think they're inherently weak.
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There have been reports on here of sector shaft bearing failures, which is exactly the kind of failure I would expect.
Go examine the geometry of the Toyota IFS and the geometry of a standard long-draglink system. Now think about the angles/vectors of the forces applied to the two.
The question becomes: would you design the IFS box and the older style box the same? There is actually more stress on the traditional steering type than on the IFS.
I doubt that Toyota built the box the same as for the conventional style system. I don't trust it as a primary without the hydraulic assist.
That's my word on it and I've made my decision. Everybody else will have to make theirs.
Go examine the geometry of the Toyota IFS and the geometry of a standard long-draglink system. Now think about the angles/vectors of the forces applied to the two.
The question becomes: would you design the IFS box and the older style box the same? There is actually more stress on the traditional steering type than on the IFS.
I doubt that Toyota built the box the same as for the conventional style system. I don't trust it as a primary without the hydraulic assist.
That's my word on it and I've made my decision. Everybody else will have to make theirs.
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Here's a thread where it was discussed somewhat. Note that there are two different types of Toyota boxes, and the older style is preferred. It appears Toyota thought the older one was overdesigned and dropped the specs on the later box.
https://www.ranger-forums.com/forum2...t=36299&page=2
Maybe the older boxes are "strong enough". But just because they're being used a lot doesn't make them the best choice if you're aren't going hydraulic assist -- and I have no intention of doing that for awhile. When the time comes I'll figure out how to port the Ford box -- which is mongo heavy duty IMO.
https://www.ranger-forums.com/forum2...t=36299&page=2
Maybe the older boxes are "strong enough". But just because they're being used a lot doesn't make them the best choice if you're aren't going hydraulic assist -- and I have no intention of doing that for awhile. When the time comes I'll figure out how to port the Ford box -- which is mongo heavy duty IMO.
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Originally Posted by _97_4X4_
What would be wrong w/ using a stock Ranger box other than the F series boxes being stronger? I've had 37's or 36's on my truck for about 2 1/2 years now and never ran into any problems...
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Originally Posted by lifted97ranger
does it mount on the outside of the frame?
if your answer is "NO" then it will not work because there is not enough room inside the frame.......
ANY steering box will work that mounts OUTSIDE the frame.....
if your answer is "NO" then it will not work because there is not enough room inside the frame.......
ANY steering box will work that mounts OUTSIDE the frame.....
Brenton
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Originally Posted by lifted97ranger
the problem lies with there not being enough room inside the frame of a '98+ Ranger for a TTB Ranger steering box.........since yours already has one on it, then don't change it......it is actually a stronger box than a lot of people think, just wont fit inside the frame on '98+ Ranger....
Ahhhh.... makes sense... didnt think about that...
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