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Nice Vid Jeweler. Man I want a stang, it'll be few years though.
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Guys, you will never regret a stang, they are awesome, 300 HP, loaded with amenities, ULEV (ultra low emission vehicle), We get 22-23 mpg city and 28-30 highway mpg. THAT'S BETTER THEN MY MOMS ACCORD. LOL. I kind of wish we had a stick, but my sister has one and its not as fast as my auto (3.31s) to my (stock 3.55s) and now (4.10s). i had to get the car out and stretch its legs a bit because it has been sitting for two weeks (me and the wife carpool). These cars bring nothing but smiles! You can get a used one for less than 15 grand, they really are not that expensive.
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Guys, you will never regret a stang, they are awesome, 300 HP, loaded with amenities, ULEV (ultra low emission vehicle), We get 22-23 mpg city and 28-30 highway mpg. THAT'S BETTER THEN MY MOMS ACCORD. LOL. I kind of wish we had a stick, but my sister has one and its not as fast as my auto (3.31s) to my (stock 3.55s) and now (4.10s). i had to get the car out and stretch its legs a bit because it has been sitting for two weeks (me and the wife carpool). These cars bring nothing but smiles! You can get a used one for less than 15 grand, they really are not that expensive.
Wanna Race
Beetle vs. Mustang??

Ill even leave the flower in the vase to decrees the horsepower by 30

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Mmmm... pony lunch...

Not to mention you've taken a GT and made better 1/4mile time, and 0-60 time than the shelby gt500, as rated publicly.

ENGINE: 5.4-liter twin-cam V8
HORSEPOWER: 500
TORQUE: 480 lb feet
0-60 mph: 4.5 seconds
1/4 Mile: 12.9 seconds @ 112 mph
60-0 mph: 121 feet
EPA: 13 mpg city/ 21 mpg highway
Mixed loop: 17 mpg

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Guys, you will never regret a stang, they are awesome, 300 HP, loaded with amenities, ULEV (ultra low emission vehicle), We get 22-23 mpg city and 28-30 highway mpg. THAT'S BETTER THEN MY MOMS ACCORD. LOL.
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Me too. lol Well just on vehicles now. Not sure if I want a stang or a truck.
Get a truck. 7.3l FTW.
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He has a tuner on his stang I think that's why his is better
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That website says our bettle gets
20city 29hwy

That is a load of crap. I did a mileage check on a trip to Texas we got every bit of 40+mpg on the highway

When she fills up on Monday she can go that whole week and into the next week on gas
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He has a tuner on his stang I think that's why his is better
You can't tune that kind of a difference into the stock ECU. Do you think ford would take the HUGE CAFE hit they do with the mustang if they could just use his maps? - If so, then I'm going to go out of business.

Also, are you actually reworking the map, or selecting from some "preconfigured tunes".

I've been able to pull 1.5mpg better than stock on the highway with my extensive list of mods. 1mpg of this came from my intercooler. To get better fuel management information i pinout the ECU with my tactrix cable and record my injector pulses over a tank of gas. End result is I can integrally sum the pulsewiths knowing what my 1200cc injectors squirt and get very accurate fuel mileage information. Why do it this way you ask? I had to: scaling 1200cc injectors is like trying to fill a shot glass with a garden hose.

If you are getting 22/28mpg (as fueleconomy.gov measures it), take your car
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That website says our bettle gets
20city 29hwy

That is a load of crap. I did a mileage check on a trip to Texas we got every bit of 40+mpg on the highway

When she fills up on Monday she can go that whole week and into the next week on gas
I did a study for fun one time on highway mileage.

I drove 10 miles at 3 speeds. 54, 64 and 74. I tried to do 44 but people were flying by and getting pissed for me going so slow.

constant speed over highway that was about the same.

54mph = 28.9mpg
64mph = 26.0mpg
74mph = 22.9mpg

Before I did this I didn't realize speed played that much a role. I didn't think it was that drastic. Thats why I mostly cruise at about 62mph now.
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i still suggest a spool.
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Guys, you will never regret a stang, they are awesome, 300 HP, loaded with amenities, ULEV (ultra low emission vehicle), We get 22-23 mpg city and 28-30 highway mpg. THAT'S BETTER THEN MY MOMS ACCORD. LOL. I kind of wish we had a stick, but my sister has one and its not as fast as my auto (3.31s) to my (stock 3.55s) and now (4.10s). i had to get the car out and stretch its legs a bit because it has been sitting for two weeks (me and the wife carpool). These cars bring nothing but smiles! You can get a used one for less than 15 grand, they really are not that expensive.
I bought one a couple months ago, with a stick and 3.55 gears (I'm still stock). The way your car sounds with the Flowmasters is the sound I want.
The next track opening is March 7, so I want to run stock before anything.
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You can't tune that kind of a difference into the stock ECU. Do you think ford would take the HUGE CAFE hit they do with the mustang if they could just use his maps? - If so, then I'm going to go out of business.

Also, are you actually reworking the map, or selecting from some "preconfigured tunes".

I've been able to pull 1.5mpg better than stock on the highway with my extensive list of mods. 1mpg of this came from my intercooler. To get better fuel management information i pinout the ECU with my tactrix cable and record my injector pulses over a tank of gas. End result is I can integrally sum the pulsewiths knowing what my 1200cc injectors squirt and get very accurate fuel mileage information. Why do it this way you ask? I had to: scaling 1200cc injectors is like trying to fill a shot glass with a garden hose.

If you are getting 22/28mpg (as fueleconomy.gov measures it), take your car
to Ford - they will pay you GOOD money for a copy of your maps.
I know the tuners adjust the whole MAF tables on these cars, especially on aftermarket CAI's that increase the MAF inlet to 90 or 95mm.
They can even adjust our drive by wire, and make is nice a responsive. I'm no tuner, but they can do alot more.

BTW, I went to Ensenada last weekend in the Stang, and averaged 24 mpg. That included some spirited driving in the nice curves they have in the scenic route, and some to up to the Bufadora.
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I know the tuners adjust the whole MAF tables on these cars, especially on aftermarket CAI's that increase the MAF inlet to 90 or 95mm.
They can even adjust our drive by wire, and make is nice a responsive. I'm no tuner, but they can do alot more.

BTW, I went to Ensenada last weekend in the Stang, and averaged 24 mpg. That included some spirited driving in the nice curves they have in the scenic route, and some to up to the Bufadora.
This is called maf-scaling. The only reason you would need to do this is if the area or shape of the x-section where the maf is. It scales the entire table at once. I do the same thing with injector scaling when using a bigger set of injectors for pretty much every car I have the software for. Drive by wire will never be as responsive as drive by cable because it takes time for the tps realize and react. You do have better afr control with it though.
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Night vid ftl... I'm with madA.... not impressed... sorry bud
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Should have gotten a stick, row your own gears in a Mustang or nothing. I can vouch for the MPG though, my Mark VIII gets 20 city 26'ish highway and hauls nicely, my old 88' GT (bolt on 5.0, 5-spd, Speed Density) would get 22mpg city and 28 highway average, great all-round cars if taken care of.

JP7 - GT500's aren't hard to beat, they're very over-rated and surprising slow for their power.
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GT500 real world are mid-low 12's, or high 11's with slicks. With a few bolt-ons, they can be very beastly.
Still a bit too pricey to get them to that point, including price of the car.
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I can't beleive I told you to trade that car in. I eat my words. That car is sick. And fast.

Those are some pretty impressive stats for it too.

mmmmmm, Mustang.
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Ill even leave the flower in the vase to decrees the horsepower by 30

If you wear the Snuggie,that's like an extra 75hp.
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GT500 real world are mid-low 12's, or high 11's with slicks. With a few bolt-ons, they can be very beastly.
Still a bit too pricey to get them to that point, including price of the car.
Gt500's are ALOT faster than mag. specs. FF&MM did a test... A STOCK GT500 with Drag Radials put down a 11.6 1/4... No joke. I put the car back to stock tonight.... Except for the gears (I have 4wheelconcepts do it) back to mid-high 13s and 17-18 mpg we go... grrrr.
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Still not as fast as my 3.0L stock ranger
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Still not as fast as my 3.0L stock ranger
Chris... Don't make me smack you. LOL
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Try it i dare you :)
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If you wear the Snuggie,that's like an extra 75hp.
Even with 75hp... I would own him... Better Race= My ranger vs. the beetle.... I KNOW your ranger is faster... LOL

STL's Ranger OWNS speed wise.
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