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but thats WAAAAAY different.



You're John F****N GRIGGS!!!



its so true!!!

my 35s dont rub either
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lets see here John your also missing the front valance dont you think that might help?
Easily trimmed regardless. I just trimmed mine a bit more than most, lol.

And he said something about "stuffing" in the back like that was a problem also and so far I've had no problems there also.

I did modify my front flare mounting a bit as well -- moving them back about a 1/2" towards the rear of the truck so they fit flush to the back of the fender lip -- that's necessary also. But I can run the front up to the bump stop now (I have to take the sway bar off to get it there easily) and no rub lock-to-lock.

Body lifts are problematical though since the frame is no higher. Ben's truck rubs against the frame because the middle of the tire is right at frame level. With a suspension lift, your frame is "up" the tire further and rubbing is not an issue.

My point was you can do things to make them fit.

Edit: I wondered what the "F" initial in my middle name was for -- my parents never told me...(I see why now...)
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i say 33s, and if you go with the 15x10 there is no way a 35 will fit you wont beable to turn very sharp and u will have to trim the valance
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N3ELZ-How much total lift do you have?
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i say 33s, and if you go with the 15x10 there is no way a 35 will fit you wont beable to turn very sharp and u will have to trim the valance
Wrong. Good try.

I had a 3" body and 35's. Never rubbed. And i could turn lock to lock. And i've replied to hundreds of body lift threads about this, I don't think anyone reads anymore. I had the 3.0 and 4.10's. You'll be fine. Especially if you get glass fenders like I did. O i had 15x10's also.

If you get 33's, you will look in the mirror and say, man what was i thinkin, 33's are grocery getters. I should have gotten 35's.

When i got my 35's, I told myself i should have gotten 37's.
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N3ELZ-How much total lift do you have?
about 5 to 6" in the front with t-bar crank and 3.5" spindles, and about 5" in the back with 2" taller blocks than stock, 1" shackle lift, and springs which don't sag so much, lol!

If you add that much block, you NEED traction bars -- I have the lighter James Duff bars (that mount over the axle).

I had the front maxxed out (t-bars) but it was too harsh on the street so I let them down about an inch and that was better. There is a slight "rake" from front to back again (nose slightly down) but with the lift and all it's hardly noticeable and the ride and handling are SO much better, lol.
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Easily trimmed regardless. I just trimmed mine a bit more than most, lol.

And he said something about "stuffing" in the back like that was a problem also and so far I've had no problems there also.

I did modify my front flare mounting a bit as well -- moving them back about a 1/2" towards the rear of the truck so they fit flush to the back of the fender lip -- that's necessary also. But I can run the front up to the bump stop now (I have to take the sway bar off to get it there easily) and no rub lock-to-lock.

Body lifts are problematical though since the frame is no higher. Ben's truck rubs against the frame because the middle of the tire is right at frame level. With a suspension lift, your frame is "up" the tire further and rubbing is not an issue.

My point was you can do things to make them fit.
Ok so alot of trimming is necessary to trim fit 35s with a BL right.

But wait, how does Jey not rub here with a BL I DONT understand.


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Wrong. Good try.

I had a 3" body and 35's. NEVER RUBBED. And i could turn lock to lock. And i've replied to hundreds of body lift threads about this, I don't think anyone reads anymore. I had the 3.0 and 4.10's. You'll be fine. Especially if you get glass fenders like I did. O i had 15x10's also.

If you get 33's, you will look in the mirror and say, man what was i thinkin, 33's are grocery getters. I should have gotten 35's.

When i got my 35's, I told myself i should have gotten 37's.
John and Jey you have confused me with the whole trimming/glass fenders/BL. Please make one post with all the information in one so he can decifer what you are talking about. If I rubbed with a 3 inch BL and 15x10s on 33s and had to trim slightly on the flare, I cant imagine how much you would have to trim/relocate as you did to fit them.

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Hey man, I didn't say that second quote -- that I remember, lol...I must have blacked out...oh wait, it was 034x4 that said that.

With regards to the first quote, I don't have a body lift, lol. I have a suspension lift. Even then, the "trimming" or "relocating" was necessary. The BL problem is rubbing on the frame, from what I can see. No simple way around that either.

I've also posted EXTENSIVELY and some would say excessively on what I did with my truck modifications and it's all on here somewhere...
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Ok my bad on the second qoute but I still stand on the 35s will still rub with a BL. Not trying to get into a argument here and jack his thread but again with 33s and rubbing you have to trim alot with 35s Jey unless you have a freak truck???

If I remember correctly Ben (Ranger1) had to trim, now if you had to as well Jey then thats a different story. They way you came off to me though was you didnt have to trim anything.
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Me, not trim anything? I posted this up the page a bit if you're talking about me...

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Easily trimmed regardless. I just trimmed mine a bit more than most, lol.

And he said something about "stuffing" in the back like that was a problem also and so far I've had no problems there also.

I did modify my front flare mounting a bit as well -- moving them back about a 1/2" towards the rear of the truck so they fit flush to the back of the fender lip -- that's necessary also. But I can run the front up to the bump stop now (I have to take the sway bar off to get it there easily) and no rub lock-to-lock.

Body lifts are problematical though since the frame is no higher. Ben's truck rubs against the frame because the middle of the tire is right at frame level. With a suspension lift, your frame is "up" the tire further and rubbing is not an issue.

My point was you can do things to make them fit.

Edit: I wondered what the "F" initial in my middle name was for -- my parents never told me...(I see why now...)
And I agree with you that 35's maybe should rub on a BL -- but don't you think it depends on the tire? Agressive treads with big side lugs sure do (as in Ben's case) -- but I think many "AT" styles with their "narrower" treads might not.

By the way, tread width can be the same on two tires and one can stick out more than the other. Most mud tires have OFFSET tread where one side is IN, where the other side of the tire sticks OUT. You measure across there maybe its 10" let's say. But if you measure from how far it sticks OUT on one side, to how far it sticks OUT on the other side, you might get 11 or even 12 inches.

Whereas an AT will have fairly even tread edges that don't stick out so much to rub.

So, it may be that the "mystery" of BL rub is in the tire design. Don't know, but it's a possibility.
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I agree its with the tires, my BFGs look skinny when compared to Zachs Buckshots. If Andy was to go with the Buckshots as he says then it will definitely run with 35s, now with 33s it will look nice and have no rubbing.
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True, but then you sacrifice that additional inch of "lift", lol. Doesn't seem like much, but in the right situation it can mean the difference between being stuck and keeping moving.

But that's probably being too much a purist. I would find it hard to go back to 33's now, but that's a "mental" thing (yes, people tell me all the time I'm "mental"...) where it would just bothering me knowing I'd lost "height", lol.
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well i wont have the stock bumper soon either...well it sagged cuz of a cobination, i beat the hell outa both leafs and shocks...but i could compress my stockers when i took em out with my pinky.

deavers are in future works as well


well guess im just gona get 33's for now..







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well guess im just gona get 33's for now..


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Yea it did Andy, sorry about that just trying to get all the information out to ya one way or another.

And good choice on the 33s for now, you will like them.
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How Much more lift would i need to put 35's on my 93 2wd? I Already have a 3" BL w 31's on 15x10s and i have plenty of room. Would i need a 4 or 6 inch kit?
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Wow, I'm not the guy to tell you that. I only have experience with later models. PM a guy on here called "crazzyearl" -- he has an older ranger up on 35x14.5x15 Boggers and it's a great truck. He can definitely tell you. I've wheeled with Earl one time and I loved his truck.
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i say 33s for sure
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42s not an option?
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If you get 33's, i will forever make fun of you andy. Don't settle for something less than you want. and if you didn't really want 35's, you wouldn't have asked.

My b/l and 35's only rubbed the fenders after 1.5 revolutions of the wheel. I did no trim anything i just replaced them with fiberglass fenders and had clearance for 37's. They did not rub the frame at all, and they did not come close anywhere.

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Wrong. Good try.

I had a 3" body and 35's. Never rubbed. And i could turn lock to lock. And i've replied to hundreds of body lift threads about this, I don't think anyone reads anymore. I had the 3.0 and 4.10's. You'll be fine. Especially if you get glass fenders like I did. O i had 15x10's also.

If you get 33's, you will look in the mirror and say, man what was i thinkin, 33's are grocery getters. I should have gotten 35's.

When i got my 35's, I told myself i should have gotten 37's.
yaya ive read yours over and over agian, i beleive ya but you said it did rub with stock fenders, did he mention anything about glass? i dont think he did.
i know that it wil rub has to my 33s almost rub the rear part of the front fender, its like 1/2 inch.

anyway ever truck is different, allot of times i wish i had 35s but then agian i fill up 2-3 times a week, i think ill stick to 33s, grocery getters or not.
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i might get glass fenders...so
1st post...cough cough.
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oh ok.. lol whatever. if ur getting glas get 35s its a must
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oh ok.. lol whatever. if ur getting glas get 35s its a must
Yea or you wont be part of the cool croud like Jey. Do you really wanna be part of the grocery gettr croud anyway
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