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I like my BFG's. If price is an issue look a round, I got mine (35x12.5x15) for 130 a tire including the mounting at a local shop.
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I JUST bought a new set of BFG AT/KO's today! I had the 265/75/16 on my 01 and they were SWEET! I do alot of off-road style driving so traction is a MUST. I do alot of ice fishing in the winter, and nothing is worse then being stuck in the middle of a lake all by your self at dusk.... I just paid $685 for all 4 out the door at tires plus That is 171 a tire all included. If you are straped for cash, but NEED new tires let me know, Iam keeping 3 of my 4 old BFG's as "Spares" or willing to sell. They got about 20% left on them.

1 thing to consider though, is if you do not drive off-road much, the BFG is a stiff tire, and will ride rough compared to a lighter tire. I run my air at about 35-40 to maintain a comfortable ride.

Keep in mind, if the tires get you out of 1 mess, they just paid the difference off.... You save what, $150 going with a cheaper tire, and itwould cost at least that to get towed out of a mess if you ever get stuck somewhere youshouldn't have got stuck.

As you can tell tires rank pretty high in my priority list. There is a reason why they are the #1 Off Road tire....

My vote - BFG 267/75/16 and you will be VERY Happy....
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Eh...a tire with around 20% left on them just doesn't sound too appealing to me....But as I've said many times already...I like the BFG's, but the Grabbers have good reviews AND they're almost $70 per tire cheaper!
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Yeah I know 20% isn't a ton of tread left, just thinking of a way to save you some $$... You could be set up for less then $200. if you know anyone that may be interested let me know.

I guess I look a little different at things now. It isn't as much of the $$ as it is function. I am willing to pay more for a better product... I only compare price when I am comparing apples to apples.... If I am comparing 2 items (like these 2 different brand of tires) I compare function and features first, pick the tire, then find he cheapest place to get that tire.
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Oh...believe me...I'm ALL about functionality. One reason why I started this topic was to put some feelers out to see what product is best. Apparently, everyone likes the BFG's. Can't really blame 'em. The BFG's are a fantastic example of what an on/off-road tire should be! BUT, the Grabbers are right for what I want at this point, or so I'm believing right now. I appreciate the offer on the tires, but my truck is my only way to and from work, and it gets a lot of miles put on it. That 20% would disappear quickly with my driving habits. The truck was purchased in Aug. 06, it has over 24K on it already. I need a good, economical tire that will perform when it needs to, but not hit me in the wallet, as my budget is tight. I've been out of work for 2 weeks thanks to a broken wrist that was not done on the job. I'm hurting for cash. Also, the Grabber's reviews seem to rate it higher than the BFG's....so, what the hell...I'll give them a go.
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I was just in this same dilema about two weeks ago and started thinking about all the pros and cons. The one thing that got me was that the Grabbers were like 84 bucks a tire on tire rack and if you figure in the shipping, for me it would have been like another $70 then like $40-$50 to get them mounted, so that comes to +/-$470 after tax and such, and if I got them locally it would have been like $519 installed and that was the CHEAPEST. Then the BFG's I found at Sam's Club for $105 a tire which came to $500 out the door installed. All in all for about $40 more I was able to get the proven BFG's, not much of a point but just showing you my figuring.

Then for me I drive 100 miles round trip to work and frequently drive to Wisconsin or North Dakota for to ride my sled or my 4 wheeler. I looked at it in the sense that god forbid I destroy one of those BFg's I would be able to find a replacement with out too much trouble no matter where I am at. Try that with the Grabbers, when I tried to find them locally I found two stores that have them and they would still have needed a week to get them and that was a 50 mile radius including two cities with 100,000 people or more. Don't get me wrong, I was all for the Grabbers, but not many places sell them and it just seemed like a better deal to spend a few extra bucks and go with the all known BFG A/T's, just my 2 cents so take it how you will. Hopefully all this made sense.
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Actually...it made perfect sense...is that a good thing for me to admit? Ha. No, the Grabbers are sold locally near me, in stock at all times, from what I can gather. I'll be doing some running around later...and I'll go check some places. But thanks for the 2 cents. All the Cents/Sense you guys add helps me out, here!
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Let us know what you decide to do.
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After the holidays, and when I get my credit cards payed off and stuff, I'll be using my tax return to buy me some tires.
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Another thing you need to consider is ride quality.... BFG's are hard, and ride rough. (my truck will bounce if I hit small bumps on the freeway) If you you are driving that 100 miles a day you have a few more things to think about, check the milage of the grabbers, are they a 50,000 mile tire? Break it down cost per mile once.... Dont' know just trying to help you brain storm here.
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Everyone talking about getting the General Grabber but no one post picture of the Grabber on Ranger ?????
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i saw grabbers on a ranger a couple days ago and they look good if i was going to have my truck as dd still i was guna buy the grabbers but i hardly drive me truck
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Holy crap this is an old thread... Someone put Grabbers on a Ranger not too long ago. I'll try and find pictures.

EDIT: https://www.ranger-forums.com/forum2...hlight=grabber

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I have some advice for anyone reading, having just removed my 265/75/16 BFG AT's. (im back to the stock 255/70/16's)

These are some of the worst tires you can buy for everyday driving. (i bet everyone is angry now)

I bought mine about 6 months ago.

1: Gas mileage dropped from 525-575kms per tank to 360-400kms

2: Loss of useable power was VERY prominent. The truck felt like a DOG. From a stop light, downshifting.. and up hills... UGH!

3: Cold weather? this rubber compound freezes at about -25 celcius.... this made for some interesting stopping characteristics on dry pavement... i could also spin my tires in 4wd on dry pavement for 5-10 feet at these temperatures.

4: the 75 profile rubber really messes with cornering

5: if you wanna go off road.. dont go near any mud at all...any (BFG Mudslicks)These tires look bad ***, work awesome on dry off road....

6: factory 255/70/16 tire weighs 36ish pounds... the BFG AT 265/77/16 weighs 53lbs (every one pound of unsprung wheel/tire weight = 10lbs of vehicle weight.. thats like pulling a 680lbs trailer!)
* and you can bet this is going to wear your brakes faster, wheel bearings .. anything driveline....

Seriously... i hope you read all my points... i ran these tires for 6 months, and will never go back...
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I have some advice for anyone reading, having just removed my 265/75/16 BFG AT's. (im back to the stock 255/70/16's)

These are some of the worst tires you can buy for everyday driving. (i bet everyone is angry now)

I bought mine about 6 months ago.

1: Gas mileage dropped from 525-575kms per tank to 360-400kms

2: Loss of useable power was VERY prominent. The truck felt like a DOG. From a stop light, downshifting.. and up hills... UGH!

3: Cold weather? this rubber compound freezes at about -25 celcius.... this made for some interesting stopping characteristics on dry pavement... i could also spin my tires in 4wd on dry pavement for 5-10 feet at these temperatures.

4: the 75 profile rubber really messes with cornering

5: if you wanna go off road.. dont go near any mud at all...any (BFG Mudslicks)These tires look bad ***, work awesome on dry off road....

6: factory 255/70/16 tire weighs 36ish pounds... the BFG AT 265/77/16 weighs 53lbs (every one pound of unsprung wheel/tire weight = 10lbs of vehicle weight.. thats like pulling a 680lbs trailer!)
* and you can bet this is going to wear your brakes faster, wheel bearings .. anything driveline....

Seriously... i hope you read all my points... i ran these tires for 6 months, and will never go back...
Sorry but every thing you said there had to do with the tire size, not type/brand, except for the braking part.

I personally have 265/75R16 Kumho road ventures on my truck right now. My truck came stock with 245/75R16 (which is the same side as your stock tires, just .5 inches narrower) I have not experienced any of what you are talking about, with my tires.
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I have some advice for anyone reading, having just removed my 265/75/16 BFG AT's. (im back to the stock 255/70/16's)

These are some of the worst tires you can buy for everyday driving. (i bet everyone is angry now)

I bought mine about 6 months ago.

1: Gas mileage dropped from 525-575kms per tank to 360-400kms

2: Loss of useable power was VERY prominent. The truck felt like a DOG. From a stop light, downshifting.. and up hills... UGH!

3: Cold weather? this rubber compound freezes at about -25 celcius.... this made for some interesting stopping characteristics on dry pavement... i could also spin my tires in 4wd on dry pavement for 5-10 feet at these temperatures.

4: the 75 profile rubber really messes with cornering

5: if you wanna go off road.. dont go near any mud at all...any (BFG Mudslicks)These tires look bad ***, work awesome on dry off road....

6: factory 255/70/16 tire weighs 36ish pounds... the BFG AT 265/77/16 weighs 53lbs (every one pound of unsprung wheel/tire weight = 10lbs of vehicle weight.. thats like pulling a 680lbs trailer!)
* and you can bet this is going to wear your brakes faster, wheel bearings .. anything driveline....

Seriously... i hope you read all my points... i ran these tires for 6 months, and will never go back...
arent the bfg a.ts a 6 ply tires and pretty thick?
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Really interesting what you said here because I plan to get new tires soon and I was looking for mud tire but now I'm really afraid to get this because i'm not a guy that play in mud hole lolol..So I think i'm gonna considerate these fact and probably get a All-Terrain tire like the grabber A/T .At the beiginning i wanted to have a mud look on my truck and i have to look in M/T tires because no A/T have a mud look but if a got road noise and seem like my truck got no power with these tire I will choose A/T.....
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I haven't has any issues with my 265/75-16's. Sure there was some power loss, but your driving a ranger, not a sports car. I can still get them to smoke on dry pavement, how much more power do you need?

As for the rubber freezing, -25 is very cold, I take it you are in Manitoba, Saskatchewan, up north etc. You need a dedicated snow tire with a softer rubber compound. The BFG was not designed to run at -25 like a snow tire. But I take it if you get a set of snow tires, you would complain then about the millage.

All that you have complained about is not the tires fault, more you not choosing the right tire for your conditions.
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I have some advice for anyone reading, having just removed my 265/75/16 BFG AT's. (im back to the stock 255/70/16's)

These are some of the worst tires you can buy for everyday driving. (i bet everyone is angry now)

I bought mine about 6 months ago.

1: Gas mileage dropped from 525-575kms per tank to 360-400kms

2: Loss of useable power was VERY prominent. The truck felt like a DOG. From a stop light, downshifting.. and up hills... UGH!

3: Cold weather? this rubber compound freezes at about -25 celcius.... this made for some interesting stopping characteristics on dry pavement... i could also spin my tires in 4wd on dry pavement for 5-10 feet at these temperatures.

4: the 75 profile rubber really messes with cornering

5: if you wanna go off road.. dont go near any mud at all...any (BFG Mudslicks)These tires look bad ***, work awesome on dry off road....

6: factory 255/70/16 tire weighs 36ish pounds... the BFG AT 265/77/16 weighs 53lbs (every one pound of unsprung wheel/tire weight = 10lbs of vehicle weight.. thats like pulling a 680lbs trailer!)
* and you can bet this is going to wear your brakes faster, wheel bearings .. anything driveline....

Seriously... i hope you read all my points... i ran these tires for 6 months, and will never go back...
I am not saying you're lying or making stuff up...but where are you getting these numbers from? Especially the "unsprung wheel/tire weight." Not doggin on ya man just curious.

All I have to say is I love my BFG's, and haven't had a problem yet. I am running a 33x12.50 R15. I also ran a 31x10.50 BFG AT for about 47k miles, and still had about 5k left on them. They do extremely well in snow and are great for dry wheeling. Even in moderate mud they are pretty good. But, if anyone is that serious about wheeling/mudding then they shouldn't be looking at an AT tire to get them through it.

However, I would be willing to give the AT2's a try. Maybe on my next set.
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I am not saying you're lying or making stuff up...but where are you getting these numbers from? Especially the "unsprung wheel/tire weight." Not doggin on ya man just curious.

All I have to say is I love my BFG's, and haven't had a problem yet. I am running a 33x12.50 R15. I also ran a 31x10.50 BFG AT for about 47k miles, and still had about 5k left on them. They do extremely well in snow and are great for dry wheeling. Even in moderate mud they are pretty good. But, if anyone is that serious about wheeling/mudding then they shouldn't be looking at an AT tire to get them through it.

However, I would be willing to give the AT2's a try. Maybe on my next set.
x2, you won't see any performance advantage by going with the AT2s, its the same tire.
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x2, you won't see any performance advantage by going with the AT2s, its the same tire.
But at about $50 less per tire.

Tirerack rates them better then the BFG's.

I bet its a great tire at a great price.
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I am not saying you're lying or making stuff up...but where are you getting these numbers from? Especially the "unsprung wheel/tire weight." Not doggin on ya man just curious.

All I have to say is I love my BFG's, and haven't had a problem yet. I am running a 33x12.50 R15. I also ran a 31x10.50 BFG AT for about 47k miles, and still had about 5k left on them. They do extremely well in snow and are great for dry wheeling. Even in moderate mud they are pretty good. But, if anyone is that serious about wheeling/mudding then they shouldn't be looking at an AT tire to get them through it.

However, I would be willing to give the AT2's a try. Maybe on my next set.
I dont have a ton of time to post up links... ill let you do the research... the unsprung weight rule is pretty common knowledge among the sports car and tuner crowd.

And no doubt i bought the wrong tires, im just posting up my experience to share with everyone else. I didnt find a reveiw like mine when i was shopping for tires. Had I found a reveiw like mine, i wouldnt have bought them.

As for needing dedicated snow tires... i bought the BFG's so i wouldnt have to chain up in mountain passes... hence the severe service rating.

Also yes the BFG's in this size are D-load tires... intended for 3/4 and 1-ton trucks.

And to the poster who said these trucks arent sports cars.... true.. but i take mine to the Strip in the summer, and i've beaten alot of "sports cars"
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I have some advice for anyone reading, having just removed my 265/75/16 BFG AT's. (im back to the stock 255/70/16's)

These are some of the worst tires you can buy for everyday driving. (i bet everyone is angry now)

I bought mine about 6 months ago.

1: Gas mileage dropped from 525-575kms per tank to 360-400kms

It's called winter gas. 6 months ago my gas mileage was around your highs, and due to the winter blend fuel, it's around your lows.


2: Loss of useable power was VERY prominent. The truck felt like a DOG. From a stop light, downshifting.. and up hills... UGH!

Guess the Mazda 4.0L is worse then my 3.0L

3: Cold weather? this rubber compound freezes at about -25 celcius.... this made for some interesting stopping characteristics on dry pavement... i could also spin my tires in 4wd on dry pavement for 5-10 feet at these temperatures.

I've been running 31"x10.5"x15" BFG A/T KO's for 6 years now and never had any issues in the winter, and I have a 2wd Edge.

4: the 75 profile rubber really messes with cornering

Check your suspension components

5: if you wanna go off road.. dont go near any mud at all...any (BFG Mudslicks)These tires look bad ***, work awesome on dry off road....

I've been in mud, soft sand, and snow, with no issues. It comes down to driving behaviour.

6: factory 255/70/16 tire weighs 36ish pounds... the BFG AT 265/77/16 weighs 53lbs (every one pound of unsprung wheel/tire weight = 10lbs of vehicle weight.. thats like pulling a 680lbs trailer!)

Where did you find this data, I'm not seeing it on the BFG website. I'm also curious to see the tire weight.

* and you can bet this is going to wear your brakes faster, wheel bearings .. anything driveline....

Seriously... i hope you read all my points... i ran these tires for 6 months, and will never go back...

When I purchased the truck, the BFG's on it had 50% tread left. Now on my second set, I have almost 60K miles on them and the tread is almost at the tread wear indicators. Needless to say, I'll be getting another set of the BFG AT KO's before next winter.

To each their own I guess.
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I dont have a ton of time to post up links... ill let you do the research... the unsprung weight rule is pretty common knowledge among the sports car and tuner crowd.

And no doubt i bought the wrong tires, im just posting up my experience to share with everyone else. I didnt find a reveiw like mine when i was shopping for tires. Had I found a reveiw like mine, i wouldnt have bought them.

As for needing dedicated snow tires... i bought the BFG's so i wouldnt have to chain up in mountain passes... hence the severe service rating.

Also yes the BFG's in this size are D-load tires... intended for 3/4 and 1-ton trucks.

And to the poster who said these trucks arent sports cars.... true.. but i take mine to the Strip in the summer, and i've beaten alot of "sports cars"
Well, you see, thats just it. I have researched, and haven't found this information. What I have done though is asked a friend of mine with a Masters in Physics from the School Of Mines, what he thinks, and he thinks you're wrong. Considering what he has accomplished with Physics, I will take his word for it. Unless of course you can show me otherwise.
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