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Bout That Time... New Tire Time..

well, when i got my truck it came with the stinky goodyears..

i kept em on for 5k until the modding began..

then i got my BFG Mud Terrain KM's... what a wonderful tire...

I have already gotten 42,000+ miles out of them and had them on almost 3 years...

I can probably safely go another 3-4k, and if i wanted some redneck slicks to run til they popped, a while longer...

So, now I am thinking about what to get next. Obviously, most people on this site, whether they offroad alot or not, drive 99% of the time on the road.

I have offroaded my truck quite a bit, and we have a ranch, and I go off the beaten path quite often... so I don't plan on getting a street tire.

I think the places I go, though, I could have gone/can go through with an A/T...

I am a big fan of my BFG's and since I am currently unemployed, I think my dad will help me out with tires, and he is a BFG guy...

So, I am stuck between AT KO's and MT KM's...

Have any of you gone 40-50k+ with BFG AT's?

I will probably be running 32x11.50 again, but might consider 31x10.50s or 33x10.50s...

anyway... I just wanted to hear ya'lls opinions on if I should get MT's again, or AT's... mud terrains just look so much cooler




or I could take off all my offroad stuff, stop offroading my ranger, sell some parts, and run these:

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ive heard of BFG ats gettin 80k.


If you go mud terrains, I would highly recommend MT/Rs. They have better thicker sidewalls, Look f*ckin sick, Perform to hell and back and I LOVE mine.



you probably wont listen to me about MT/Rs though. oh well, ill see you later when you finally make it to the top of the trail!
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ha!

only cuz you're 4 wheel drive...

me and member solodos went out...

both 2wds

he had 32x11.50 mtrs and a locked rear end...
i have 32x11.50 bfg mud terrains, open differential

he got stuck 150 yds behind me...
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ha!

only cuz you're 4 wheel drive...

me and member solodos went out...

both 2wds

he had 32x11.50 mtrs and a locked rear end...
i have 32x11.50 bfg mud terrains, open differential

he got stuck 150 yds behind me...



who went first, what kind of terrain, what kind of truck does solodos have, etc?


give me all the details.
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get the MT they look great and you got pretty good mileage out of them. but if you are going to do more driving the at is a good tire too. i wouldnt get rid of all your offroad stuff, because you will then want to spen more money making it look street.
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who went first, what kind of terrain, what kind of truck does solodos have, etc?


give me all the details.
he has a ranger... same motor...

everything on our trucks is the same... cept the tires and he had a locker..

i went first... he didn't make it through my ruts...

Peterson's 4 Wheel Drive compared all mud terrains and BFG's scored higher than MTR's...

I think it's kinda like the Chevy-Ford thing...

Some people are BFG people, some are Goodyear...

btw do you know what mtr stands for?

"Multi Traction Radial"

it's not a "Mud Tire" per say...

Mud Terrain KM= km = keyword mud

i have never seen a professional and well tested review to put MTRs above Mud Terrains...

mtrs are also a softer compound and wear down faster...

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Peterson's 4 Wheel Drive compared all mud terrains and BFG's scored higher than MTR's...



You mean THIS petersons tire comparo test????
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haha.. that is not the same one as in the magazine...

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5. BFGoodrich Mud-Terrains
BFG has been a standard of the light truck industry for years, and most people buy them because they know they work. Itís that simple. And once again, the Mud-Terrains proved themselves capable. As the Jeep eased up to the starting line, we noticed that the tires were not sliding around on the slick ground very much. That was a good sign. We imediately noticed that they launched better than most and provided excellent steering, especially for such a skinny tire compared to some others. While flotation seemed well below average, the great self-cleaning lugs really spun out the goo, and that helped to propel the BFG-shod CJ to the 60-foot mark before it buried itself to the gills. The most interesting aspect of these tires was on the hill test in 2x4 condition, where the BFGs simply climbed up the hill as the other 12.50 tires did; contact pressure overcomes flotation in a test such as this.

3. Goodyear MTR
The newest addition to the Goodyear line is the MTR, introduced two years ago on the Rubicon. While we continue to be impressed with them in rocks, this was the first time we really got to check íem out in the mud. The 12.50 section width was smaller than the Swampers and such but comparable to the other tires of the same size. The new tread pattern really showed its stuff on launch, where the Jeep nearly pulled the front tires off the ground. These tires launched the hardest by far. While screaming through the mud the MTRs exhibited great steering ability, even though the flotation department noted that they were pretty average. As far as self-cleaning, these tires did that in an above-average manner, contributing to a distance mark of 63 feet 9 inches, even better than the Swamper TSLs. Whatís more, the trip back to the garage proved that these tires work great on the two-by section while going uphill in the slime.
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haha.. that is not the same one as in the magazine...

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thats right did even better than TSLs.




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We were looking at the six different tire characteristics we felt were a good indication of performance: Flotation, or the ability to stay on top of the mud; steering ability, which is important if the tires fall into deep ruts; launching, which indicates what type of grip or traction the tires have; slippery hill in two-wheel drive, an all-around indication of traction; self-cleaning ability, where a tread design throws out the mud so the lugs get a fresh grip in the goo; and finally, the distance each set of tires could propel the Jeep into the mud pit. So here it is, the mother of all mud tire tests. While you may not agree with our conclusions, and we admit that a test like this is highly subjective, we also know what we saw and how the tires performed in a real-world situation. Enjoy the read, then go mount some meats and check it out for yourself.
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that whole test was just about how far they could get in the mud...

doesn't mean it performs all around better..



well, actually they did a slippery two wheel drive hill climb, and if you want to caompare how the MT/Rs run on the rocks compared to the BFGs, then good luck cause the MT/Rs will smoke the BFGs on rocks.


sorry.


and if you tell me street preformance, then get the ATs cause I agree they are great on the street.
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anyway... back to the topic at hand...

the options are

BFG Mud Terrain or BFG All Terrain

sizes 32x11.50, 33x10.50, 33x12.50

on the mud terrain, the tread depth is the same on the 32x11.50 and the 33x12.50, but a little less on the 33x10.50

the all terrains have a much smaller tread depth and are not known for cleaning themselves out well in the mud...

at's go alot further on the street... but won't go too far in the mud...

mt's go well on the street, and rock in the mud...

at's are quiter... mt's are not so quiet...

mt's look more aggressive...

hmmm...
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I think that ill beleive what the editors of petersons, who have been doing 4x4 longer than you and I have been alive, even if it may be in their mind only.

Not to mention Ive never had any traction issues with my goodyears.
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here they are, cosmetically, side by side:

bfg mud terrains & bfg all terrains
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honestly if I were you, Ide get the ATs. If you want to do mud you can take your 150 out.
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honestly if I were you, Ide get the ATs. If you want to do mud you can take your 150 out.
which will be running 40" super swamper tsl's when it is ready for the mud...

thing is, though, there are places where i take my ranger(beach, ranch, hunting, fishing, camping, looking at stars, etc) where i have to go through alot of mud, sand, etc...

going offroad in my ranger is not really something i can get around... i just wonder how the at would do in those situations..
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well i am running 31x10.5x15 BFG AT KOs and so far i LOVE them i have about 7,000 miles on them since i got them in june of 04... the tread still looks brand new... even has some of the pegs left i have only gotten stuck once but that was driver error not a problem with the tires ... i would reccomend 32x11.5 with your rims (15x8 i assume)
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well, tire size is my personal preference..

if i got the 33x12.50's i would probably do the spindle lift, later on...

i would stay stock with 33x10.50's or 32x11.50's...

33x12.50s probably ain't happenin...
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which will be running 40" super swamper tsl's when it is ready for the mud...


hahaha which is exactly why you should get ATs for the ranger.



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because i also drive that old truck around... it's my around town truck...

boggers are too expensive and would wear too fast for something that will see highway, too...

if they made the radials as big as i wanted, i would run them(this is a long ways off, anyway)...

i want to run 15/39.5-15LT on a 15x12" rim...

but that is waaaaay down the line. that truck won't be ready for thos tires until the axles get beefed up, the suspension is redone and ny new tranny and tcase are in there...

so, for now, those 38.5" ground hawgs will get me around town... if those pop or anything, that old truck will be running some <30" tires for a while... anything really cheap i can find...

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a/t's 50000+ if you want to get your money out of them. BFG m/ts if your going for looks and can afford it. I love my truck with mudders but i settles because of the amount of street driving I do. looks like my parents are getting ALOT of property in Tenn and i will have to get a spare set of Mud king X/T for off-road use soon way before my A/T's wear out. personally i love my A/T's now. no humm at all and handle great...... your going to end up with what u want christian not what we tell you....
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boggers are too expensive and would wear too fast for something that will see highway, too...

if they made the radials as big as i wanted, i would run them(this is a long ways off, anyway)...




I agree they are expensive but as for the highway thing, TSLs arent gonna wear much better or do much better on the highway. theyll both be sh*tty.
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Get the MT...

They look better...

I drive highway all the time.. (Who Cares)
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your going to end up with what u want christian not what we tell you



true that. I know you always have your mind made up and youll be rather stubborn (for a lack of a better word) about it if we dont tell you want you already settled on.
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