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true that. I know you always have your mind made up and youll be rather stubborn (for a lack of a better word) about it if we dont tell you want you already settled on.
I wasnt calling him stubborn its just people always end up with what they want. i even do it. thats why i dont even ask any more
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no humm at all and handle great......
really i noticed a good bit of road noise after i got mine... no where as loud as MTs but still loud
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really i noticed a good bit of road noise after i got mine... no where as loud as MTs but still loud
Man own a set of Cooper STT's you want ROAD NOISE HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BFG A/t's i hear NOTHING now i love it.... my quiet exhaust is louder....
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I wasnt calling him stubborn its just people always end up with what they want. i even do it. thats why i dont even ask any more


I wasnt callin him stubborn either but i couldnt think of another word at the time.
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ha!

me and member solodos went out...

both 2wds

he had 32x11.50 mtrs and a locked rear end...
i have 32x11.50 bfg mud terrains, open differential

he got stuck 150 yds behind me...
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who went first, what kind of terrain, what kind of truck does solodos have, etc?


give me all the details.
Ok OK OK,

I have to chime in on this to get ALL the facts out. First off, Christian is right I got stuck 150 yds behind him. BUT I was third in line and that kid that was in front of me STOPPED right after he went through the 1st set of ruts. SO I had to stop in the middle of the hole (mind you afterwards the f-250 4x4 got stuck here too). So that kid gave me a tug and I got out. Drove down to Christian's truck about 30 ft behind him, got out got the chains straps and come along, but no luck b/c he was buried good. So I decided to try and turn around to pull him in forward. As I backed up I slid to the left into a big hole taht was up to my door, I remember this b/c I coudl barely get out of my truck adn my frame was on the ground.

Now for the MTR/MT comparo. I have had both! THey both were great in the mud, they both wear abotu the same, I have 30K on mine and they still go fine. In fact on Fri at work I was on a site and was stopped on a wet pasture that froze over, bu my truck broke the surface, I hammered on it and they cleaned great, grabbed bottom adn got me out (UPHILL).

Now where I have foudn the reall difference is that the MTRs were always a little better at cleaning and able to grab bottom. THe MTs handle better in the rain I think. BUT the MTRs handle better on the road, balance easier (less weight), and with 30K on them still handle the mud better than the MTs did with 30K.

See once my MTs wore down they became worthless, where as I am still confident in my MTRs. ALSO, when the BFGs began to wear they starteed cupping real bad. I will be gettign the MTRs again, it is worth the extra $10 a tire.

I am not trying to dog BFG, they are BOTH awesome tires, but Goodyear is a little bit better.

NOW, since you are set on BFG, which is fine! I would still go with the MT!!!! THEy will last a good while as you have seen. Remember to rotate every 3K, last longer, and keep em balanced. The ATs will cake so fast that mud will be the end of you. I have seen 4wd broncos, Z71s with ATs get stuck in holes i walked through with my BFG muds. If you get the ATs sure you may get more miles, they are great on the street, but unless you have 4wd they are worthless offroad. My work trucks all have ATs adn we have to constantly throw them in 4wd b/c the ats cake so fast adn need all 4 wheel rotation.

Now sorr for the LONG post, but I feel it was informative, and fair.
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Good job Jeff im glad you cleaned up the situation of you being stuck 150 yds behind Xtian. I didnt really bebleive it when explained so undetailed in the first place but now i know whats up.



and jeff you take your MT/Rs on rocks (rock shelfs boulders little rock chunks) as well?? WOW!! on the rocks the MT/Rs are absolutely godly. Which Might explain how before the BFG KRAWLERS came out they were on just about every competition/hardcore rig out there.
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Good job Jeff im glad you cleaned up the situation of you being stuck 150 yds behind Xtian. I didnt really bebleive it when explained so undetailed in the first place but now i know whats up.
NO Problem...

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and jeff you take your MT/Rs on rocks (rock shelfs boulders little rock chunks) as well??

No I havent hit rocks really, being only 2wd (hence my screename) I dont feel it would do too well in rockcrawling situations. But i may have to try, just to see.
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Man own a set of Cooper STT's you want ROAD NOISE HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BFG A/t's i hear NOTHING now i love it.... my quiet exhaust is louder....
yeah i can see how that would be true... i was coming from a set of stock goodyears which were quiet but sucked in every other way
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lower it....
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haha. jeff messed up my compelling story

i had forgotten about that guy being in front of you jefe...

lo siento...

and i am not totally settled. that is why i wanted some feedback...

i am really hoping my dad will buy me my tires, as i can't afford them right now, and he buys bfgs..

thats why i am stuck on bfg...

i figured i could get some feedback on some of you who run at's, specially the fx4 lvl II guys...

things i don't want opinions on, i don't post about...

i appreciate all of your feedback and even the MTR talk... i will see if the shop we get tires from carries them and i am going to read more about the differences...

if that shop carries em, maybe i could convince my dad on em.. if i feel they are a better tire...
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the all terrains have a much smaller tread depth and are not known for cleaning themselves out well in the mud... <----- christian thats what u said right.... wel let me tell ya ..don't plan on goin to far in the mud with a/t's i have them both on the ranger and blazer and on the ranger the front clog up and the rears turn to slicks....on the blazer it's like running on a tread mill all 4 are spining but it's not movein anywhere
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How about some Yokohama's?
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dave southern some on his edge...

bobzombie aka wvedeg2001

they did alright...

he went anywhere i went...
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yokohama=not so good offroad.



but thats just me.



if he went anywhere you went you didnt do anything hard.




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P.S. youre lucky im only back to reply cause I had to get more beer.
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yeah. dave and i never went too far off the beaten path together...

here's dave's truck:

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i figured i could get some feedback on some of you who run at's, specially the fx4 lvl II guys...
Well Christian, I had my truck for 30,000 miles and they looked brand new. Hard to keep in a balance, but if you can deal with balancing all the time, they will last you a long time. My buddy Steve had some 29" BFG A/T's on his old like, 1992 Ranger for over 90,000 miles and he finally had to replace them. He got another set.

As far as self-cleaning and the such -- sure, it won't be as good, but certianly not that poor! I went everyplace in Centralia, on my own some places, back home in Michigan, construction area's full of mud, Wharton, Ft. Mott...Ice, Snow, Mud, Frozen Mud [really interesting], fields, dirt, rocks, anything. Great hydroplaning resistance -- I really think these tires have it all.

The only other set I would be interested in would be the Bridgestone Dueler Revo II's, but those aren't necessarily an 'off-road' tire.

I think in the end, YOU would be more happy with the Mud Terrain as that is what you are used to...but drive these A/T's in the rain and snow [you don't get snow] and you'll notice a world of difference, not to mention a small increase in mileage and ride comfort and a decrease in rolling resistance, road noise and 'squirrelyness' on the road.

Try them, the worst you can do is..well, like them! :)
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yeah. dave and i never went too far off the beaten path together...

here's dave's truck:





God, Im tired of people saying "mud at high speeds" is "off the beaten path".



expand your horizons because there is a LOT more than charging mud at 30 MPH. Just because you hit a mud hole or two at high speed (for offroad) doesnt mean a tire is "good". theres a lot more to offroading than charging anything you can find in a near metro area.



damn.
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God, Im tired of people saying "mud at high speeds" is "off the beaten path".



expand your horizons because there is a LOT more than charging mud at 30 MPH. Just because you hit a mud hole or two at high speed (for offroad) doesnt mean a tire is "good". theres a lot more to offroading than charging anything you can find in a near metro area.



damn.
Your a whiney little biotch...
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Your a whiney little biotch...



and youre a f*ggot, what about it.



All I ever see you post is about something I say. If you know somethin say it instead of gettin your one liners in like "your a whiney little *****".



real smart reply as$h*le. let me hear you say something you know instead of some little cop out remark.
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Christian, i think you should just go with the mud terrains again. I have mine and i just got them because of the looks...i love them...

I was also trying to decide before i got my tires whether to go with a/t's or m/t's but i was like what the heck...mud terrains look way better...if they wear out too fast from being on the highway i will just get new ones...
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I love my BFG AT's but I think next time I'll try to go MT's. They look better and the times I do go offroad I'll be better off. Actually I was thinking about Thornbirds but I just bought them so I have awhile to decide.
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y does an argument ensue after every post Gil does?

back to topic....

all terrain tires is my answer, unless u're truck will stay off road most of the time....all terrrains is the way to go for economy/sensibility
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gil. i said we didn't do much.. about all we did was some mud holes. so chill out, man... it wasn't sarcasm. it was serious. we never really did that much offroad. so i can't really judge how well they did, but they served dave well enough... not like they were goodyear wranglers...

and that wasn't a near-metro area...

what if i go through a big mudhole, because i have to just to get to a certain part of someone's ranch. alot of people's offroading isn't recreational... i guess mud changes depending on how far you are from a city? i should offroad closer to town, then... i would never get stuck



why don't you just stay out of this thread, as i think you have commented on about anything you could have...

around here, when i need to get from point a to point b, i might have to go through a mud hole at high speed to get through it. i am 2wd.

if i start getting stuck, well guess what.. i can't flip it into 4wd, i have to floor it and let the tires do the work for me...

you live in colorado and have a 4wd. i live in texas and have a 2wd. totally different trucks and scenarios.

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hey guys, my bad I was worked up from somethin that happened late last night, I think ive said what I think and im outta thispost.



sorry.
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