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heres a thought, what about swapping two tires with redneck stone, and see if there a difference, the, well first start with the two rears, then put your old rears back on and put rednecks's on the front.... that should atleast give you a 'cheap' way to diagnose the prob. I hafta agree, its MOST likely just 1 tire. and this is one way of eliminating some of the vairable quickly and cheaply.
For one if I scratch a wheel I would be PISSED, number two the truck is vibrating all over so I can conclude that its not just one wheel causing it.
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Nothing inside the tire that could cause the disruption? Like a badly applied patch or even a plug?
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Nothing inside the tire that could cause the disruption? Like a badly applied patch or even a plug?
The tires have less than 3000 miles on them. No patches or plugs. The guy wants to me to dismount the tires, vacuum the beads out and then clean the inside of the tire. From that point to reinstall them and see what happens.
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i have airsoft pellots in my 37s... no other weights.. i only get a slight vibration at about 75-80
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The tires have less than 3000 miles on them. No patches or plugs. The guy wants to me to dismount the tires, vacuum the beads out and then clean the inside of the tire. From that point to reinstall them and see what happens.
i'd tell him to shove it up her *** and give you a refund
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I had the similar problem. I had a bent rim.


If the vibration is in the steering wheel, it is in the front

If it is the cab, its in the rear...

If it's both...well, crap...I dunno




I had a bent rim, I replaced it and it was 100x better.

Dynabeads worked for me, I'm in need of them now actually
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i'd tell him to shove it up her *** and give you a refund
Well I would but he is putting the blame on the tire lube that was installed. So its not looking like any refund is coming my way. And I am not really sure if I wanna reinstall the beads once I get them out. What if its not different and I have to pay to get them dismounted again.
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you guys arnt paying attention his truck rode better with out the beads then install the beads it rides like crap so 1+1=2 being the beads arnt doing the job there making it worse
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Well I would but he is putting the blame on the tire lube that was installed. So its not looking like any refund is coming my way. And I am not really sure if I wanna reinstall the beads once I get them out. What if its not different and I have to pay to get them dismounted again.
ya just tell him there was no lube and that **** shouldnt affect it unless they used like 8lb of the stuff
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you guys arnt paying attention his truck rode better with out the beads then install the beads it rides like crap so 1+1=2 being the beads arnt doing the job there making it worse
Well the guy from innovative has a good point on the whole situation. If there is excessive lube on the inside of the tire then the beads are stuck to it and not working as they should. I am going on vacation in two weeks and dont have time for this lol. I think I am going to get the beads out and go with a standard balance for now. I hate that I have to do that but I dont have a tire machine at my house so that puts the doing it myself out of the question.
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very true bill
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you guys arnt paying attention his truck rode better with out the beads then install the beads it rides like crap so 1+1=2 being the beads arnt doing the job there making it worse
No, I fully understand.

It IS probably the tire lube. I had to REQUEST them to use soapy water because he was going to use some grease and I read on the dynabeads website that you can not use the grease, the beads will stick to it.

It took my truck up until 30mph for them to "work" and set in. After that it is fine.

I was just throwing the bent rim thing out there...I don't know how long/far/conditions he drove the unbalanced tires around...
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ya just tell him there was no lube and that **** shouldnt affect it unless they used like 8lb of the stuff
"A lot of tire dealers and alloy wheel suppliers require installation using their own particular brand of bead sealer. Some are meant simply to ease the bead up and onto the rim, while some alloy wheel suppliers use a brand containing a corrosion-inhibitor.

In any case, beads and sealer on the inside surface of the tire definitely do not mix. (...think flypaper) So the recommended procedure is to apply he sealer carefully with a small brush to the bead only. Don't let the dealer take his big, floppy brush and slop it around, dropping excess inside the tire where the beads will adhere to the sealant and prevent them from working.
If you do get some inside, just use a moist rag and wipe it clean."

http://www.innovativebalancing.com/application.htm
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No, I fully understand.

It IS probably the tire lube. I had to REQUEST them to use soapy water because he was going to use some grease and I read on the dynabeads website that you can not use the grease, the beads will stick to it.

It took my truck up until 30mph for them to "work" and set in. After that it is fine.

I was just throwing the bent rim thing out there...I don't know how long/far/conditions he drove the unbalanced tires around...
Not long enough to matter. I am torn on what to do. I take the chance of losing some beads if I attempt to vacuum and reinstall or just dont care clean them all out and use stick on weights.
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Were they (dynabeads) expensive?
Do you have a friend with a tire changing machine?
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Not long enough to matter. I am torn on what to do. I take the chance of losing some beads if I attempt to vacuum and reinstall or just dont care clean them all out and use stick on weights.
I would vaccum and reinstall.

If there is some sort of bead stuff on there, I woudl try it again, if not, mech balance
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Not long enough to matter. I am torn on what to do. I take the chance of losing some beads if I attempt to vacuum and reinstall or just dont care clean them all out and use stick on weights.

here is what you do. go down to your local highschool talk to the auto shop teacher and ask him is he can have one of his students remount your tires. now I know you probably dont want to take the chance of scratching your rims, but it will be the cheapest route. or you can cough up the coin and have a tire place do it.
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here is what you do. go down to your local highschool talk to the auto shop teacher and ask him is he can have one of his students remount your tires. now I know you probably dont want to take the chance of scratching your rims, but it will be the cheapest route. or you can cough up the coin and have a tire place do it.
Thanks for the recommendation but ill have to pass. I would much rather take to a tire shop, dismount clean it out and then reinstall new beads. Not the ones that came out of the tire. But thats just more money as well. Or just have them balanced with stick ons.
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Were they (dynabeads) expensive?
Do you have a friend with a tire changing machine?
Its about 12 dollars a bag and I need four.
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what about taking your tires to a shop and letting them spin them to see what the problem is......then if you want weights on the wheels, have them put on and leave the beads in the tires....
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what about taking your tires to a shop and letting them spin them to see what the problem is......then if you want weights on the wheels, have them put on and leave the beads in the tires....
That would work to a point, then if the beads move off the lube they are stuck on it will through off the balance.
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it wouldn't throw off the balance......their website says you could use both beads and stick on weights......it would probably make it a truer balance...
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it wouldn't throw off the balance......their website says you could use both beads and stick on weights......it would probably make it a truer balance...

If the beads are stuck in one position during the balance, then you balance it and the beads move later it will through it off.
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what they will do is go to the opposite side of the tire and then even out to the weights........
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I've gotten to the point where I mount my own tires now and it is definitly possible to mount tires without any tire lube. it takes a little more effort but it is still doable. I mounted 285 intercos on the stock 7 inch rims like that. So if you do have a tireshop do it, clean the tires out really well and have them mount em without using any lube.
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