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Ranger44 02-23-2007 08:30 AM

OPINIONS: Pirelli Scorpion ATR vs Dunlop RVXT vs Yokohama Geolander AT Plus II
 
Alright folks.... I know that many of you like to give your opinions on tires, so here's your chance. I want opinions on the following three tires- good or bad. Thanks.

INFO: Looking to buy tires for my 2006 Ford Ranger XLT 4wd. I live off a dirt road and drive on the freeway everyday. I want a good AT tire that can do three things: 1-Handles well on any surface, good traction and response; 2-Can handle light mud and dirt with ease; 3-Can handle high freeway speeds (below 120mph).

My first choice. Before I ran across the Dunlops.
OPTION 1- PIRELLI SCORPION ATR
http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires..._atr_ci2_l.jpg

OPTION 2- DUNLOP RADIAL ROVER RVXT
http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires..._owl_ci2_l.jpg

Came across these yesterday. Saw them on a Chevy... not sure what he used them for (street queen), LOL. I have heard good things about these tires.
OPTION 3- TOYO OPEN COUNTRY A/T KNOCKED OFF LIST
http://www.treadepot.com/prodimg/opatp.png

Let the opinions roll!


UPDATED OPTIONS
:
  1. Pirelli Scorpion ATR
  2. Dunlop RVXT
  3. Yokohama Geolander AT Plus II

red_fx2 02-23-2007 09:58 AM

i'd also check out the pro-comp at's or the general grabber AT like FMD has.. sorry dont kno much about those tires.. thats why i said the ones above..

here's a link for the Grabber AT 2
tire rack-grabber AT2

Ranger44 02-23-2007 10:13 AM

Yeah, I thought about the Procomp ATs. Actually had them on a K5 Blazer a while ago. I was happy with them, but always worried about the quality of tire it was. Afterall, who makes the tire? I was told that Procomp is just the label. Ever notice how Procomp stuff is repainted or relabeled? IE es3000 shocks = RS5000 shocks

For the Generals.... Im pretty much done with them. Ive now used 3 sets of their tires and each either had terrible balancing problems or the 'its normal' tire bulge on the sidewall (where the two carcas halfs meet).

SIDENOTE: Id love to run the Mickey Bajas, but they are too much money.

Ranger44 02-23-2007 10:14 AM

Heres the MT Baja ATZ Im talking about. TOO EXPENSIVE
http://www.mickeythompsontires.com/i...a_atz_trad.jpg

greygooseranger 02-23-2007 10:22 AM

Ok Toyos are great when they are new, but are hard to balance, traction is great, but only for the first 20K miles. Then they wear fast and really suck in anything other than dry pavement. The Dunlops are a great tire, but no matter how low you go on air pressure (with in reasonable safe driving) they ride on the centers and wear to the point that there is no tread in the middle and 10K worth of tread left on the sides. The Pirellis are great from what I have heard, but they are still kinda new so I haven't read that much about how long they last. I haven't heard anything about the mickeys......

bdiddy 02-23-2007 06:57 PM

if you're not into hard core off-roading then you're right with the pirellis being your first choice. they're going to get you the most miles out of the three you have chosen as well as the best on road handling.

HarryTasker 02-23-2007 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by Ranger44
I want a good AT tire that can do three things: 1-Handles well on any surface, good traction and response; 2-Can handle light mud and dirt with ease; 3-Can handle high freeway speeds (below 120mph).

Why not BFG AT KO. Unless you have removed the govenor on your ranger your max speed is 93mph.

Mr. Special 02-23-2007 07:31 PM

Personally i dont see any of those tires being very good. None of the treads seem... well near aggressive or will be able to perform off paved roads better then the stock POS goodyear wranglers

BFGs, ProComps, those GeneralGrabbers look decent, etc... are better bets

Ranger44 02-23-2007 09:54 PM

has anyone ever looked at rally tires? they are not that aggressive to begin with. as of right now, I am leaning towards the Dunlops for price, mileage, size and tirerack rating. the darn Pirellis are E load.

to answer a previous question, No. Im not into rock crawling or mud slinging. my offroading consists of speeding down dirt and sand fields.

lastly, the Toyo has been officially knocked off my list.

however... Yokohama Geolander AT Plus II tires have been added. they are getting great reviews. Ive seen a few guys on here that use them. AND... they are affordable. Imagine that.... lol. A tire from Yokohama that affordable.
http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires...eo_at_plus.jpg

SIDENOTE: BFGs are out of the question for three reasons- French company, handling is horrible, and tires are too expensive. For the money I could spend on BFGs- I could buy MT Bajas.

HURRAY! Its the weekend. Keep the opinions coming.

coolpeoplswillis 02-23-2007 10:19 PM

i like these....im gonna get some here shortlyhttp://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s...ge_jpg_jpg.jpg

Lord Of War 02-23-2007 10:27 PM

I have the Dunlops and they are wearing very hard in the center. I have tried different air pressure and still cant get if figured out. I bought them at discount tire and they have a 50k warranty so when they go out I am gonna get a discount on my next tires. I like them alot besides the wear. I think it might be because my truck is light but who knows.

greygooseranger 02-24-2007 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by Ranger44
has anyone ever looked at rally tires? they are not that aggressive to begin with. as of right now, I am leaning towards the Dunlops for price, mileage, size and tirerack rating. the darn Pirellis are E load.

to answer a previous question, No. Im not into rock crawling or mud slinging. my offroading consists of speeding down dirt and sand fields.

lastly, the Toyo has been officially knocked off my list.

however... Yokohama Geolander AT Plus II tires have been added. they are getting great reviews. Ive seen a few guys on here that use them. AND... they are affordable. Imagine that.... lol. A tire from Yokohama that affordable.
http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires...eo_at_plus.jpg

SIDENOTE: BFGs are out of the question for three reasons- French company, handling is horrible, and tires are too expensive. For the money I could spend on BFGs- I could buy MT Bajas.

HURRAY! Its the weekend. Keep the opinions coming.


The Yokos are good tires, allot of people I know have had them, but they wear too fast, I think they are a 40K tire, and most of the people I know who had them said they didn't make it much past 30.... They did however balance, ride nice, and have good traction on almost any surface.....

On a side note, anyone heard anything good or bad about cooper ATR's? Sorry, about highjacking but I didn't want to start a new post just for that.

TheBob 02-24-2007 08:40 AM

http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires...o_wl_ci2_l.jpg

Birdgestone Dueler Revo Best all around tire I've ever seen. Stable at 90 MPH on the freeway, good in light slop, killer in snow and rain.

Ranger44 02-24-2007 10:20 AM

WOW. Those REVOs look great, and the reviews are great as well.
To be honest, the only reason why I have stayed away from Bridgestone tires is because they are the same company that owns Firestone. After the rather large Firestone 'fallout' (and for good reason) Ive stayed away from them altogether. Thanks to your comments, Ive looked back at Bridgestone for a quality product. Afterall, they are the largest Japanese tire company today.

Regarding the Yokohamas, Im getting mixed impressions for mileage. Still in the running.

The Dunlops; many are saying the they wear heavily on the inside tread. But, if you look at the 285/75 tire size- they are load D. The Ranger is too light for a D load tire, or anything close to the 119 index. The 265/75 Im looking at is a 114 load, so it should give me even treadwear. They are also the least amount of money of the current options.


UPDATED OPTIONS
:
  1. Pirelli Scorpion ATR
  2. Dunlop RVXT
  3. Yokohama Geolander AT Plus II

SIDENOTE: REVOs are nice but too expensive.

RECENT EVENT: I never really looked at Cooper Tires. To be honest, I put them on the same platform at BIG-O Tires or Futuras. GRAYGOOSERANGER has brought them up and if he wants to provide more info, Im willing to listen.

Ranger44 02-25-2007 10:57 AM

Now this is what Im talking about.
My type of offroading

FINAL RESULT: After hours of researching, my final comparison has come down to the Dunlops and the Yokohamas. My final decision is the DUNLOP RVXT. This tire won over the Yokohamas because of two reasons: the Yokohamas have a higher than necessary load rating, and the price for the tire is much higher. For cost to benefit, the Dunlop wins.

WINNER: Best On-Road and Off-Road Tire for Speed, Handling, Traction on many surfaces and Cost


THANKS FOR EVERYONES HELP!


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