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coming from someone.. that actually wheels. and has driven in snow.. MTZs are a GREAT tire. They're alright on mud, i heard the KM2 is better on loose dirt/muddy trails.

They're siped so that helps.. I'm from Texas and had never driven in snow, then moved to Wyoming for a year, never had an issue in the snow in 2wd and in the deep snow drifts they tore it up too.
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Man, crawler INSPIRED! Not based That is 2 different things. Inspired just means that the tread pattern is similar in looks. It has nothing to do with the construction of the tire, or the compound, or how it is going to perform.

The rubber compound has less to do with the road noise than the tread design. Look at Super Swamper Boggers. With that horizontal tread pattern, it creates alot of vibration. Guess what vibration equals? Sound! Now look at something like the BFG AT. It has very small voids between the tread. This creates less vibration because more of the tire is on the ground. This is called the contact patch of the tire. A mud tire has less of a contact patch because it is designed to not let the mud pack up the voids.

Do you know what crawling is? You know ROCK crawling right? Soft soil conditions has nothing to do with rock crawling. This is an all around mud tire. It performs equally in mud and hard terrain.

The BFG crawler tire is ultra sticky. The compound is totally different, as well as the construction of the tire. The crawler is designed to have a very soft sidewall. This increases its contact patch, and in turn increases traction. The problem with that is that on the street it is going to be prone to excessive sidewall roll.

The KM2 will have a stiffer sidewall to make it more street orientated. It needs to have a different compound than the Krawler because it needs to last longer than a couple of thousend miles.

What I am trying to say is that there is no way in hell you can compare a set of tires based on looks. Thats just being ill-informed and ignorant.

And I do know quite a bit about tires actually. I work in a motorcycle shop, we are the only dedicated tire center in Western Canada. We have more tires in stock than most places sell in a year
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hey fellow washingtonian! i would get something that has big lug with good spacing. i have heard boggers are good in snow but i have never used them. i am personally getting cooper discoverer stt for my next tire
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Man, crawler INSPIRED! Not based That is 2 different things. Inspired just means that the tread pattern is similar in looks. It has nothing to do with the construction of the tire, or the compound, or how it is going to perform.

The rubber compound has less to do with the road noise than the tread design. Look at Super Swamper Boggers. With that horizontal tread pattern, it creates alot of vibration. Guess what vibration equals? Sound! Now look at something like the BFG AT. It has very small voids between the tread. This creates less vibration because more of the tire is on the ground. This is called the contact patch of the tire. A mud tire has less of a contact patch because it is designed to not let the mud pack up the voids.

Do you know what crawling is? You know ROCK crawling right? Soft soil conditions has nothing to do with rock crawling. This is an all around mud tire. It performs equally in mud and hard terrain.

The BFG crawler tire is ultra sticky. The compound is totally different, as well as the construction of the tire. The crawler is designed to have a very soft sidewall. This increases its contact patch, and in turn increases traction. The problem with that is that on the street it is going to be prone to excessive sidewall roll.

The KM2 will have a stiffer sidewall to make it more street orientated. It needs to have a different compound than the Krawler because it needs to last longer than a couple of thousend miles.

What I am trying to say is that there is no way in hell you can compare a set of tires based on looks. Thats just being ill-informed and ignorant.

And I do know quite a bit about tires actually. I work in a motorcycle shop, we are the only dedicated tire center in Western Canada. We have more tires in stock than most places sell in a year
I've been on plenty of soft soil when "crawling" depends where you are.. unless your at like Moab, or Katemcy.. your gonna be on more than just solid rock.

that being said, the Krawler has a HELL of a lot stiffer/thicker sidewalls.
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Man, crawler INSPIRED! Not based That is 2 different things. Inspired just mea.......
Just to let you know that my information comes directly from our BFG manual at work. I work for the company that sells more Michelins and BFG then any other company in the US. I dunno why you went off on this rant about sidewalls and such, that has nothing to do with what I was talking about.

For the OP, buy a All-terrain tire based on its on road characteristics, unless you are going to be off road weekly. In the end you will be much happier with a decent on road and off road tire rather then a really good off road tire that sucks on road.
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And then put them up to 50 psi to keep the sidewalls fresh right?
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And then put them up to 50 psi to keep the sidewalls fresh right?
If you are working with a Load Range E BFG A/T then yes that is a suggestion. And btw its the side lugs....
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Just to let you know that my information comes directly from our BFG manual at work. I work for the company that sells more Michelins and BFG then any other company in the US. I dunno why you went off on this rant about sidewalls and such, that has nothing to do with what I was talking about.

For the OP, buy a All-terrain tire based on its on road characteristics, unless you are going to be off road weekly. In the end you will be much happier with a decent on road and off road tire rather then a really good off road tire that sucks on road.
what does? "based on"?


I'm going on Inspired.. coming from someone who's seen them both, ridden in trucks with both.. seen them on the trail, they're completely different beasts. Krawler lugs are HUGE, the sidewalls are thick as ****, they're a softer compound, if you get some sticky red labels its muchhh softer. KM2s are a good poser tire.. i don't intend on running them unless i get a smokin deal.


How can u say MTs suck on the road? IMO they're not that bad. I'm going on 2+ years on 2 of my original MTZs that i got in May of 07. Badkarma has 3 years on his 38x1450 TSL SXs

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My KM2s ride just like the ATs did on the road, you would never know its a mud tire if you couldn't hear the hum. The only time you can tell the difference is rolling under 5mph when you can feel each lug roll.
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My KM2s ride just like the ATs did on the road, you would never know its a mud tire if you couldn't hear the hum. The only time you can tell the difference is rolling under 5mph when you can feel each lug roll.
and i personally love that
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Honestly I like my Cooper Discoverer S/T's they have never let me down yet and I've had them in deep sand, mud, and snow. They do great on the road and in wet weather. They are somewhat of a hybrid tire between an M/T and an A/T.
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what does? "based on"?


I'm going on Inspired.. coming from someone who's seen them both, ridden in trucks with both.. seen them on the trail, they're completely different beasts. Krawler lugs are HUGE, the sidewalls are thick as ****, they're a softer compound, if you get some sticky red labels its muchhh softer. KM2s are a good poser tire.. i don't intend on running them unless i get a smokin deal.


How can u say MTs suck on the road? IMO they're not that bad. I'm going on 2+ years on 2 of my original MTZs that i got in May of 07. Badkarma has 3 years on his 38x1450 TSL SXs
I was compairing the KM and the KM2. The KM2 does have a softer rubber compound. I never said it was the same compound as the Krawler.
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i wouldn't run either. so its no biggy
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just run swampers, I've had mine on for over a year and still look brand new.



oh, but only about 3,000 miles lol
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i think this is being made into too big of deal. just find a popular mud tire that has a low price and go with it. he asked for a good tire and i would guess that his mind is scattered from all the answers.
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