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Teflon coated?
If so, make sure they are VERY careful mounting tires, and placing weights. I see a lot of those scratched up from mounting.
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nice wheels... dont chip them
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Teflon coated?
If so, make sure they are VERY careful mounting tires, and placing weights. I see a lot of those scratched up from mounting.
Yes sir there teflon, I'll be sure to tell them.
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those are my favorite!!!!
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those wheels will look great on your truck man.
just have them use tape-weights so theres no scratching from hammering on a clip-on weight
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If you go with stick on weights make sure the shop knows to clean the wheel really good where they need to stick them at. I have seen so many fall off a few minutes after getting them mounted. Shops tend to skip that step, but pay for it in the end.
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Are these mounted yet
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Are these mounted yet
Not yet, I still gotta get the tires.
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Nope they didnt have netflix in 1910.
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nice wheels love em! gona look sexy!
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heads up see if they will just single plane balance them on that inside lip(with tape weights) with the offset on those if they try to dual plane them(inside lips and behind spokes) they will NOT balance right.

and heads up also tape weights do sometimes fall off if you go mudding alot(the tape on the back has a paper layer that soaks up the water and loses adhesion)

and don't let them use brake clean to clean the wheels before balancing. it turns the teflon slightly blue. i usually just use a clean microfiber and some water then dry it off. never had a customer come back because of thrown weights :)
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heads up see if they will just single plane balance them on that inside lip(with tape weights) with the offset on those if they try to dual plane them(inside lips and behind spokes) they will NOT balance right.

and heads up also tape weights do sometimes fall off if you go mudding alot(the tape on the back has a paper layer that soaks up the water and loses adhesion)

and don't let them use brake clean to clean the wheels before balancing. it turns the teflon slightly blue. i usually just use a clean microfiber and some water then dry it off. never had a customer come back because of thrown weights :)
Sweet man thanks for the heads up!
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Haha you're welcome! just my 5 years and $00.02 worth of knowledge :) can't wait to see some pics those are some good lookin wheels!
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heads up see if they will just single plane balance them on that inside lip(with tape weights) with the offset on those if they try to dual plane them(inside lips and behind spokes) they will NOT balance right.
Yes, you can get a proper balance with a 'dynamic balance' (on the lip and the the weights). I have never been able to get a good balance with a 'static' balance (only tapes). I have balanced my tires many times at work and even when the balancer reads 0.00 it shakes going down the road.

The reason for this is on a dynamic balance you are balancing 2 planes. Up and down along the Y axis, and rotationally around the Y axis along the X and Z planes. When you try to do a static balance, the machine tries to put both vibrations on a single plane, then it tries to compensate for it.

I have balanced my tires many times, both statically and dynamically, and I have never gotten a good balance with static. Some of the guys in our shop will be lazy and try to do a static balance when they re-balance on rims without a outside lip, they come back way too often.

If you dont want clip weights on the inside they can do a dynamic balance with tape weights by the spokes and also by the inner lip.

EDIT: Here is a much better way of explaining what I was talking about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire_balance

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and heads up also tape weights do sometimes fall off if you go mudding alot(the tape on the back has a paper layer that soaks up the water and loses adhesion)



You guys must use cheap tape weights. We have gone through a couple different vendors and we always have the ones with the foam rubber backing. Ive never had problems with mine coming off.
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I agree a dynamic is better in MOST cases. I was referring more to the offset of the wheel. When you look at where the weights behind the spokes would go it is almost at the center of the wheel. You might be doing a dynamic balance in a technical sense but all that weight will be on one side of the wheel. But what do I know I only balance about 200 tires a day....lol. I can dynamic balance my wheels all day and they will shake because of this. Static no shake at all. There is a very fine line where dynamic works and where it doesnt

And yes we use cheap ones haha. I won't argue there. Its in the city people don't off road much. Foam backed ones are the way to go for sure if your wheeling. Even better get the flexible cut-a-weight ones like they use on some of the newer vws with no outer lip.
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I agree a dynamic is better in MOST cases. I was referring more to the offset of the wheel. When you look at where the weights behind the spokes would go it is almost at the center of the wheel. You might be doing a dynamic balance in a technical sense but all that weight will be on one side of the wheel. But what do I know I only balance about 200 tires a day....lol. I can dynamic balance my wheels all day and they will shake because of this. Static no shake at all. There is a very fine line where dynamic works and where it doesnt

And yes we use cheap ones haha. I won't argue there. Its in the city people don't off road much. Foam backed ones are the way to go for sure if your wheeling. Even better get the flexible cut-a-weight ones like they use on some of the newer vws with no outer lip.
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Sorry for the double post. On my phone haha
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And I am agreeing that if you static yours they will shake. They are stock wheels correct?
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I know I balance 200 tires a day also. I also am an engineering student that has taken physics and knows rotational properties. I also am pretty familiar with the way that modern balancing equipment works.

All newer balancers will compensate for the location of the weights. If your offset is too far in the negative, then you will want to put your tape weights on the outsides of the spoke, ugly but it will give you a much better balance. Even if your tape weights are just outside the center point the machine will compensate for this. There is no reason that with modern balancers you should be doing a static balance.
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Engineering smengineering....
Sometimes you have to learn from experience not from a book.
I agree a $15k balancer is supposed to compensate but I guarantee it will not always work

Not to start anything but I am sure I have more experience with this than anyone on here...

Honestly just let the shop you decide to take it to balance how they deem fit. If it shakes bring it back and have them try something else

Or send them my way and it will be a one and done deal lol :)
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