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WRONG!!!!!!!!!!

All the tire says is the MAX pressure, it does not tell you the ideal pressure.

Personally when I sell someone a set of BFG A/T's I tell them for the best wear keep them at the manufacturers recommendation, if you want to keep the sidewalls nice and sharp keep them at 50 PSI (unless the man. calls for a higher pressure).




For a quick reference:
Car tires: MAX 44PSI
Load Range C: MAX 35PSI
Load Range D: MAX 50PSI
Load Range E: MAX 80PSI
WTF... WTF you sell tires for a living and tell people this.. are you ****ing kidding me... you need a new job or to learn...

btw load C max PSI lol... 50... bull****.. go look at a BFG a/t load C 33x12.5x15 and 35x12.5x15 and look at the max psi.. its 35...

http://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/specs...t-a-ko/44.html


not all loads are the same max for every size. and your run 50 for "sharp" side walls you have to be ****ing kidding me.. like chainfire said they are sharp because you never touch the sidewalls down.. wow... just wow...

this is falling into your same style of thinking of wiring?


go get a BFG A/T out of the shop if this is what you do for a living read the side wall.

(not exact #) it will say something like :

35psi x 1200lb


ok thats one tire.. so say your truck weights 5000lb

first ratio 35/1200 x 100 = 2.92 ratio

now 5000 / 4 = 1250

so to maintain a 2.92 ratio

do simple cross multiply

(x/1250)x(35/1200) = 36.46psi

36.46 / 1250 x 100 = 2.92

so staying in the working load of the tire you want to run 36-37 psi for your 5000lb vehicle. and that will be properly inflated.


if you really wanna get **** you need to start factoring in weight ratio's of the weight balance of the truck front to back and you can find out front to back which PSI. I was using a basic equation of a 50/50 weight ratio
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Nice, Ok so does anyone know what the ext cab with the 4.0 sohc weighs in the front and back
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Yea, sounds like someone shouldn't be selling tires. You should NOT run at max pressure all that time. Especially for "sharp edges".

Well I also guess thats a little job security. Tell people how to wear out their tires faster, so they come back sooner...
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Haha, and I was trying to be the nicer one for once.

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With your truck, you should be fine runnin 35 front, maybe a little less in the rear. Fool around with it, it is going to vary depending on the truck, size of tires, what you have in the truck, the amount of wear on the tires etc. Hit the chalk trick, worked for me.
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WRONG!!!!!!!!!!

All the tire says is the MAX pressure, it does not tell you the ideal pressure.

The ideal pressure will get you the best wear for the tires. The ideal pressure is what is listed on the door frame. I run my tires between 30 and 35. My door sticker says 30. Remember your air gauge isnt really accurate. If is going to be off by a pound or two.

If you over inflate your tires you will experience cupping in the center of the tire and will wear your tires out prematurely.

Personally when I sell someone a set of BFG A/T's I tell them for the best wear keep them at the manufacturers recommendation, if you want to keep the sidewalls nice and sharp keep them at 50 PSI (unless the man. calls for a higher pressure).




For a quick reference:
Car tires: MAX 44PSI
Load Range C: MAX 35PSI
Load Range D: MAX 50PSI
Load Range E: MAX 80PSI
ARE YOU F-ING KIDDING ME??

so the guy with load range E tires on his ranger should run 80.....yeah umm...

the sidewalls will be sharp, and only the center of the tire on the ground. this is why you have to always check your tires after you leave the tire store...you ant trust them obviously
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Haha, and I was trying to be the nicer one for once.

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With your truck, you should be fine runnin 35 front, maybe a little less in the rear. Fool around with it, it is going to vary depending on the truck, size of tires, what you have in the truck, the amount of wear on the tires etc. Hit the chalk trick, worked for me.
or you can actually figure it out with math... remember when you asked your teacher in math "where in the real world does this apply!!!!!" right there *****es lol
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it appears that stone OWNED everyone here...

its scary that ppl run 50psi in their rangers and complain about tire wear? wtf
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50 PSI!!!!!!

man your nuts. I could see 50 psi MAYBE on an fullsize that is towing a heavy load, but on a Ranger? BS! That is like riding on a set of hockey pucks.

But your right, you will keep the sidewalls nice and sharp, only because they are not even touching the ground.
So when you bought your BFG A/T's you bought them for the nice smooth and quiet ride? Another then that I bring up when selling A/T's is that with an A/T you are going to have a stiffer louder ride (and if you want to tell me that your A/Ts are as smooth as a LTX M/S or latitude tour, I will laugh at you)

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WTF... WTF you sell tires for a living and tell people this.. are you ****ing kidding me... you need a new job or to learn...

btw load C max PSI lol... 50... bull****.. go look at a BFG a/t load C 33x12.5x15 and 35x12.5x15 and look at the max psi.. its 35...

http://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/specs...t-a-ko/44.html


not all loads are the same max for every size. and your run 50 for "sharp" side walls you have to be ****ing kidding me.. like chainfire said they are sharp because you never touch the sidewalls down.. wow... just wow...


go get a BFG A/T out of the shop if this is what you do for a living read the side wall.
Notice I said that the max on a LRC is 35 PSI? Do you really think that I would tell someone to drive around on tires inflated past their max? One of my aunts ex-husbands (yes there was a couple) died when we was inflating a truck tire and it blew up on him after he over inflated it. I would never inflate a tire past the max nor would I ever tell anyone too, im not stupid.

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Yea, sounds like someone shouldn't be selling tires. You should NOT run at max pressure all that time. Especially for "sharp edges".

Well I also guess thats a little job security. Tell people how to wear out their tires faster, so they come back sooner...
Yeah thats why I tell them if you want the most life out of them keep them at the manufacturers recommendation if you want them to look nice keep them at 50. Most of the people around here don't buy A/Ts and expect to see 60k out of them. Most people are buying them for looks and looks alone.
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ARE YOU F-ING KIDDING ME??

so the guy with load range E tires on his ranger should run 80.....yeah umm...

the sidewalls will be sharp, and only the center of the tire on the ground. this is why you have to always check your tires after you leave the tire store...you ant trust them obviously
Did I say run them at 80 or did I say the MAX was 80? because im pretty sure that I said the max was 80PSI.......

And yes you should always check stuff out once you leave. People who work on vehicles are people just like you. We all make mistakes. As for me I only inflate them to what the manufacturer requires unless the member requests and when they do request I write it on the invoice and have them initial next to it.
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or you can actually figure it out with math... remember when you asked your teacher in math "where in the real world does this apply!!!!!" right there *****es lol
F THE REAL WORLD!!!!!! hahaha

Damn I got told. But nothing like this guy.

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Notice I said that the max on a LRC is 35 PSI? Do you really think that I would tell someone to drive around on tires inflated past their max? One of my aunts ex-husbands (yes there was a couple) died when we was inflating a truck tire and it blew up on him after he over inflated it. I would never inflate a tire past the max nor would I ever tell anyone too, im not stupid.
That has nothing to do with exceeding the max pressure on the sidewall. It was probably due to a defect in the tire, unless he put like 100 psi in the tire, in which case Darwinism took effect.

You and I know that it is almost impossible to bead a tire at 35 PSI, as stated on the side wall.

Man your just dumb
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Personally when I sell someone a set of BFG A/T's I tell them for the best wear keep them at the manufacturers recommendation, if you want to keep the sidewalls nice and sharp keep them at 50 PSI (unless the man. calls for a higher pressure).

This is what you said......
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My FAV part of this whole post below is he is skipping over the most important part of my post is the proper way to find working load PSI of a tire lol...



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So when you bought your BFG A/T's you bought them for the nice smooth and quiet ride? Another then that I bring up when selling A/T's is that with an A/T you are going to have a stiffer louder ride (and if you want to tell me that your A/Ts are as smooth as a LTX M/S or latitude tour, I will laugh at you)
actually my BFG A/T both sets on my Silver truck where silent and also rode like a dream because THEY WHERE INFLATED to proper working loads what a thought... so no.. there not harsh at all...

I have a MT now and my truck is a softer ride then my BFG at because its inflated correctly and has more side wall so DUR its fine.. good try tho...




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Do you really think that I would tell someone to drive around on tires inflated past their max? One of my aunts ex-husbands (yes there was a couple) died when we was inflating a truck tire and it blew up on him after he over inflated it. I would never inflate a tire past the max nor would I ever tell anyone too, im not stupid.
driving over or AT MAX is wrong in general BOTH are it should be inflated to the correct working load NOT max..


Sorry he died i have had 4-7 tires explode on me due to dry rot.. its not fun but it happens ....





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Yeah thats why I tell them if you want the most life out of them keep them at the manufacturers recommendation if you want them to look nice keep them at 50. Most of the people around here don't buy A/Ts and expect to see 60k out of them. Most people are buying them for looks and looks alone.

WRONG... WRONG manufacture isnt recommending 50 or max its what the tire can handle..

my BFG A/T 265x75x16 had 45,000 miles on them when i sold them with 11/32 of tread. from there they went on Scotty's truck for over a year then on Chads truck for a while. they had to have over 65k on them and still had over the wear bar and i think he sold them again.. so yes properly inflated BFG A/T will yield 60k easy...
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Personally when I sell someone a set of BFG A/T's LRD or LRE'sI tell them for the best wear keep them at the manufacturers recommendation, if you want to keep the sidewalls nice and sharp keep them at 50 PSI (unless the man. calls for a higher pressure).
There is that better.

95% of the A/T's we sell are in the LRD or LRE catagory, if they are LRC's I dont tell them that.
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But your still wrong, that is MAX pressure, not working load like Stone said. Face it, you know nothing about tires, and you are a danger to everyone that comes in your shop.
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There is that better.

95% of the A/T's we sell are in the LRD or LRE catagory, if they are LRC's I dont tell them that.
either way your still wrong saying run them at 50 to the customer unless the working load specify 50 your wrong.. good job tho.. its funny still haven't touched my post up there with that scary math to dispute it becuase its TRUE OMG...
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IF YOU WANT THE MAX LIFE OUT OF YOUR TIRE KEEP THEM INFLATED TO THE VEHICLE MANUFACTURERS RECOMMENDATION!!!!!! If you want them to look pretty inflate them to 50PSI, no you wont get the best life but they will look DAMN GOOD! You can inflate them to whatever PSI as long as you do not exceed the tire manufacturers max cold pressure.

Is that better?
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no 50psi on a ranger doesnt look "damn good" it looks over inflated...

what do you plan on running at the dunes if you run 50 on the street 30psi? let me know how that works out

jesus you make me laugh
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I don't see why a overinflated tire looks better than a properly inflated tire? Maybe I'm missing something
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Didnt realize that balloons looked good on a Ranger.

I guess function over form doesn't apply to tires....
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a tire with a cement sidewall doesnt look pretty. do you really tell the customer (mark kruger voice) "well lady, if you want your tire to look pretty in your geo metro, run 50psi" (/mark kruger voice)
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i dont think i have ever run higher then 35psi in a ranger lol...
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a tire with a cement sidewall doesnt look pretty. do you really tell the customer (mark kruger voice) "well lady, if you want your tire to look pretty in your geo metro, run 50psi" (/mark kruger voice)
ROFL
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no 50psi on a ranger doesnt look "damn good" it looks over inflated...

what do you plan on running at the dunes if you run 50 on the street 30psi? let me know how that works out

jesus you make me laugh
Well I run my tires are 30-35 because that is what FORD recommends. At the dune I will probably air them down to 15PSI. Also the max pressure on my tires is 35. I do not have BFG A/T's so I have no reason to over inflate them, but if I did have them and I wanted the sides to look nice they would be at 50PSI.
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Well I run my tires are 30-35 because that is what FORD recommends. At the dune I will probably air them down to 15PSI. Also the max pressure on my tires is 35. I do not have BFG A/T's so I have no reason to over inflate them, but if I did have them and I wanted the sides to look nice they would be at 50PSI.
ROFL... haha... jesus.. wow...


also to save yourself the trouble dunes 10psi max...
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I don't see why a overinflated tire looks better than a properly inflated tire? Maybe I'm missing something
basically it wears less on the sidewalls and keeps them looking like new. This is because they are over inflated.

I guess it would be better to say side lugs then side walls.
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