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Old 01-23-2007
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HazJohn..

Its like Walmart. They purchase in such a large quantity that they can underprice anyone. The problem with most ' distributers ' is they cater to those whom do the most business. You can buy 10,000 items for a cheaper price then 9,000. The local shops aren't buying in quantity for local distribution whereas Summit and TireRack are selling Nationally. They might as well be ' direct distributers ' themselves.

The cost to all of us?

As Mr. Griggs stated.. The man he trusted locally to setup his tires correctly and have no worries ( or he could stop by if there was a problem ) is now gone. If you buy a tire online and something is wrong with it, you have to send it back OR try and find a local shop to honor the warrenty from the MFGR and have them do the work.

Personally, My tires are the only thing that touches the road. As most people on this site that know me or have road with me, I have a .. twitchy foot on the gas pedal ( and a PAIR of bottles behind the passengers seat ). Tires and brakes are the most important ( safety wise ) on our vehicals. I'd rather spend the bucks locally knowing if I need servicing I can stop in anytime/day and have it done, then have to call an 800# to india/packistan/sandmanland and argue.

Its a personal choice. Save money online and worry about about the ' what if ' senario OR buy locally and spend more.

I eat tires. I went through 6 on the back and 4 on the front this past year. I don;t buy ' cheap ' costing tires either. I see it as money spent to help my local econemy and keeping my neighbors employed. Of the 10 tires I tore up, 3 were covered under warrenty ( 1 lasted less then a month till I twisted the sidewall off it ) . Would TireRack/Summit do the same?

Its good to have a choice, its sometimes difficult deciding and often, everyone votes with their wallet instead of their brains.
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Old 01-28-2007
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personally my local tire places can kiss my ***. they are an EXTREME RIP OFF. everyone around me wanted $675 for my 32x11.5x15 and that was WITHOUT mounting and balancing then they always want to put new valve steams in every time and that is a good $20 easy depending, when 99999999999% of the time my wheels already have very good valve steams. then they cant balance worth a crap either its mostly high school kids that are in a hurry and honestly dont care. and the fact that they usually damage your wheel also if there alum..

now summit racing they where $550 and some change shipped to my door in UNDER 16 hours i ordered them around 4pm they arrived around 7am the next morning. then before this i spent like $50 and bought a tire mounter. then also aquired an old bubble balancer. so i can save myself $, know i did the damn job not some HS moron that cant even balance a tire.

there is no good mom and pop shops around that does a good job. i would rather order from summitracing any day while i am living up here. when i move to Tenn in Union county there is alot of good places but screw up here...
I agree with you Zach and hey I work for discount tire...

I know my boss tries to make a large profit off of every deal he even tries to screw his emploies over (charging me labor on my on truck)

although I do think that discount tire does a good job with the labor and such(at least I try to do my best)

The only thing I see different about tire rack is that they have to ship you the tires and such and if you arnt getting rims then they come unmounted and unbalanced.
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not taking sides but a vibration you incur is not always the balances fault...have you ever thought of the roadforce. to those with big at tires that are heavy you drive a truck. its not a caddy or some smooth engineered car. stiff springs to haul stuff and your saying it doesnt ride nice....maybe its just me but a 40-60 pound tire is almost guareenteed to a) take some weight and b) not ride smooth

in my expereince the only large tire that has ever balanced out nice has a been a 37x1250x17 mtr on a h2 wheel that i put on a 2500 cummins and it still took 5 ounces of weight
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i know im digging up an old topic here, but wanted to point this out....

online businesses dont generally have a store front... meaning they dont need the 2-10million dollar liability policy that is oodle of cash a year to cover someone if they fall and sue. electric, gas, phones, water - all commercial rate cause its a business can range from 10%-30% MORE over what u, as a home owner pays. Not to mention all the lights are on ALL day running up that electric bill... Then you have equipment to buy, lifts, tools, balancers mounting machines, all that stuff costs BIG money. then you gotta buy and STOCK inventory..... then you have employees to look after, pay them a decent wage, plus taxes on said employees, and if you have health insurence, thats another cost. u need insurence to protect your assets (tools inventory, equipment) from fire and theft, plus extra insurence incase something happens and a vehical gets damaged while in your shop.... say the guy doesnt set the car right on the lift and something happens and falls off.... thats why u have insurence.

All these costs have to be paid some how, and you have to make a profit. to take a loss on something just get your business, unless you have other products or services to cover that loss, you cant take the business. like walmart can take a loss in their tires, cause they have a full store of over priced chinese junk to make up for it. you mom and pop shops cant do that.

these variables are something to take into account when buying online vs offline. sure alot of online retailers have store fronts, but the sheer volume of online sales, makes up for the losses they take at the store, so they end up breaking even at the end of the year.

reporting sales tax: SOME states require you report sales tax..... i think u add it to your income tax... you port what u bought, how much u spent, and how much tax you owe on such item. in nYS this went into affect is 2003. this is designed to catch the big guys buying tens of thousands of dollars of stuff online and bringing it into the state tax free..... = mega bucks in lost revenue for the state..... so there is a reason for it.... will u get caught if u dont report? probably not... but just think of how easy it would for the irs to see whos paying and whos not.... just run a check on all credit cards u have to see what u bought online and then compare that to ur tax form u sent them... how much u wanna bet theres a dscrepency? LOL
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Old 02-18-2007
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No, tire rack isn't putting tire shops out of business.

I work for the nation's largest tire chain and if anything, tire rack helps. First, any tire they have in stock, I can order it by 3:00PM and have it the very next day. Second, we price match...

A tire that might normally cost us $100 that we'd normally sell for $115 that they have for $95 plus $15 shipping, we can order from them for about $80 + shipping from them with our discount and sell for $105...

Not to mention, the markups on most tires aren't anything substantial. We make our money from service dollars. No matter where you order your tires from, you have to get them installed somewhere.
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or u can do it urself if u know the right people, my 'right people' means waiting months
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its a free market... buy from the cheapest place
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