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i have 2 friends that rolled their trucks because of those tires on a wet road. 1 was a ranger. the other a 1500 on 35s. my dad bought them and hasnt had trouble yet though.
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I could have told you that about those tires. My boss had them on his F-150. I used to use it a lot, they absolutely suck in every way.
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Most of you know that I bought a F150...Well, the truck came with Toyo open country AT tires and they look to be almost new. So, I donít like the tread on them but I figured I would run them for a while....

This is the worst tire EVER in the rain, I have had BFG AT's and MT's, Pro Comps, MTZ's, ATZ's, Nitto's and the list goes on, but these Toyo's stand alone compared to all the others. Every time it rains its like I'm driving on Ice, I canít believe this tire is being sold and I canít believe there isnít some class action lawsuit against Toyo over how bad these tires are on wet surfaces. Anyways, I will be purchasing tires soon because I am sick at how bad these tires are on wet surfaces...these phuckers are dangerous!
I TOTALLY AGREE!!!!! My sipless MUD TERRAINS are WAYYYYYYY more safe compared to those pile of crap POS Open Country A/T's! I'd be hydroplaning EVERYWHERE with those aweful tires.
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You think those are bad try RT/S's. I was pullin out of the Exxon station the other day and just barely got on it and I was pitched sideways in the middle of the road spinning all over the place.
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The only time my BFG ATs spin in the rain is when I try to on purpose, I have never had a problem with them from a stop and go.
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You think those are bad try RT/S's. I was pullin out of the Exxon station the other day and just barely got on it and I was pitched sideways in the middle of the road spinning all over the place.
I feel safe saying the RT/S's were a better tire than a Toyo Open Country A/T.....at least in the rain.
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I feel safe saying the RT/S's were a better tire than a Toyo Open Country A/T.....at least in the rain.
RT/S>Toyo O.C. A/T
They both really suck anyway you look at them.
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I don't seem to have issues with bfgoodrich at's i can only get them to spin in the rain if i really hammer on it and I have 4.10's and an ls. now this depends on the road surface, some places have like a concrete road and that is like hard pack snow when wet. Enough to where it makes my truck feel like it has power when you get it to spin at 35
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man my stock Conti's suck a$$ in the rain, I'm so ready for some new tires.
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I wish I could take them back, but they came on the truck and I doubt the dealership will give me another set.
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What are you planning on getting to replace them?
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How? I dont spin at all unless I try to with a LS and MTs now. MTs are supposed to be worse than ATs in the rain.
They will spin more as they wear a little. Mine aren't visibly "worn" but the tread compound becomes harder. Not bad of course, but they will spin a bit like any M/T. Let off for a second and they hook right up.

The main problem I remember with my toyo open country a/t was hydroplaning in heavy rains and standing water, but it was a long time ago (8 years) since I had them.
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The main problem I remember with my toyo open country a/t was hydroplaning in heavy rains and standing water, but it was a long time ago (8 years) since I had them.
YES!

I had a set of brand new Toyo OC A/T's(31x10.50) before I put the mud terrains(32x11.50) on the Ranger......they were wicked scary on the highway....always hydroplaning on the standing still water on the freeway...first time with them in a downpour, I made the decision to ditch them and ordered the BFG M/T's(an unsiped tire). I'd always be straddling the grooves in the highway so I'd have control of the damn thing. It sucked. Now, with the mud terrains I've had....I could ride the groove full of water at 70 or 75 with full vehicle control.

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MTs are supposed to be worse than ATs in the rain.
Supposed to.....but it's a misconception. I've never owned a tire that performed as well in the heavy rain, standing water, and higher speeds as my unsiped BFG M/T's or the unsiped GoodYear MT/R(old style). Yeah, pretty much any tire will spin on wet pavement, that's of no concern to me because I know how to control it, but whats of upmost concern to me, is drivability on a highway at speed with a downpour because that's a major thing around here..7 months out of the year is pouring down rain. MTs are supposed to SUCK in rain because of the lack of siping. In my experience, completely untrue. Of course I am using quality MT tires, not some noname cheapass tires.
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Yeah I was expecting to have bad traction in the rain and the KM2s are fantastic
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Yeah I was expecting to have bad traction in the rain and the KM2s are fantastic
They are great in the rain really. I was rounding a corner on a backroad the other day (50mph around a 35mph corner) in a driving rain when a dog ran out of the bushes. Hard breaking and swerving and they remain very sure footed. Even when I do break them loose intentionally in the rain they hook back up pretty fast.
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Yeah I have to try pretty heard to get it to slide, when it does its not difficult getting it back under control either. Very very happy with them
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YES!

I had a set of brand new Toyo OC A/T's(31x10.50) before I put the mud terrains(32x11.50) on the Ranger......they were wicked scary on the highway....always hydroplaning on the standing still water on the freeway...first time with them in a downpour, I made the decision to ditch them and ordered the BFG M/T's(an unsiped tire). I'd always be straddling the grooves in the highway so I'd have control of the damn thing. It sucked. Now, with the mud terrains I've had....I could ride the groove full of water at 70 or 75 with full vehicle control.
Never had this problem dude. And still this forum is the only place I see this kind of crap about the Toyos and I'm on other truck forums ALL the time. I know the haters here probably didnt even read my post, but I'll say it again, the BFG ATs did all kinds of funky stuff to me in the rain, including almost rolling my truck. Not the Toyos. And Toyo owns Nitto and they use a higher quality compound than the TG's yet no one here ever says anything bad about the TG's. I have no experience with the TG's, but I do with the BFG AT's and after owning 2 sets of them, all I can say is BFG AT's FTMFL unless its dry out

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i love my Nitto Terra Grapplers... And they are the more aggressive version of the Open Countrys... Maybe it is b.c they are more aggressive but they stick in the rain unless i get on it.
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Brigdestone Revo's great tire in the rain...have to work hard to spin them.
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But i have to say I will never own a set of BFG's either, my next set of tires will be the coopers ST's they impressed me last week cause it was a wet/muddy messed hunting on dirt roads and they preformed pretty well....
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. And Toyo owns Nitto and they use a higher quality compound than the TG's yet no one here ever says anything bad about the TG's.
Where did you read that at? Do you have any actual facts stating that? I'm not disagreeing with you I'm just curious
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Where did you read that at? Do you have any actual facts stating that? I'm not disagreeing with you I'm just curious
Regarding the compound I've heard conflicting things, that they use a better compound, and that they use the same compound. But the Toyos are the pricier of the two. And its common knowledge that both are made in the same plant
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If you've heard conflicting things then why did you say that they use a higher quality compound? I've heard the same about them being in the same plant though. The quality difference makes sense, I would assume the cheaper of the 2 would have the cheaper compound but you know what happens when you assume...
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well, from a business standpoint....not a bad assumption. Anyway here's one

http://fleetowner.com/news/toyo_tire_facility_121205/
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I've had no problems with mine so far about the only thing they haven't seen is thick mud.
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