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Dave if they cost you twice as much you are getting ripped off, I can get 265/65r16 BFG's for 135 a tire from Discount as Jo blow off the street, through my old Ford dealer I can get them for about 115. On tire rack the Price for at2's is 116 a tire right now. Not exactly half there scooter. Plus the difference between $400 and $500 bucks when it comes to tires is peanuts. Why not buy APR's then? If they last 20K miles you'll still be ahead?

And your "General has a Higher rating" is pointless, There is 1270 people who rated the BFG and 52,493,831 miles reported. There is only 108 people that Rated the AT2 and 572,008 miles reported and they are less than half a point higher. Statistically that is useless.

~HJ

 

If you want cheap good AT tires, Go with these.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....1=yes&place=22

94 dollars and I swear these are Great Tires, My Dad put 65 K on a set of Kumhos on his truck, they are just as good IMO as my BFG's in the snow and they look good.



~HJ

 

Actually my local tire dealer beat the online price and that is where i bought mine.

 

Cooper st

 

The Cooper S/T's are very nice tires! All of the contractor and construction companies run them on their trucks here in Southeast Iowa for 2 reasons: traction & wear. They're an A/T that actually does pretty well in mud (due to their larger voids between tread) and has lots of edges and siping so they grip well in rain and snow. They're pretty aggressive looking for an A/T. Cooper S/T's do great in all the conditions we experience here in Iowa (which is everything) and all of the companies run 'em on their trucks because of their great tread life as an A/T tire. It'd definately look into them if I were you.

 

The reason BFG has so many consumers is the name mostly in my opinion. BFGs like to get sidewayz in the rain. They dont clear out well. The only thing I hear is that they are good in sand.

 

Nitto ATs!!!
i love mine

bigger voids than the BFG, and more aggressive looking

i heard they are good in the snow.. ill figure it out this winter for myself if i dont get 35's before then..

 

Yeah i spent alot of time looking for tires. Most of them were alot more then i was willing to pay and plus i was not looking for a super off road tire. That is why i bought the at2's. They looked just like my old bfg's and where about $40 cheaper then the bfg's too.

 

I couldn't be any happier with my BFG's. Look great and perform great. I don't think there is any enviroment worse than the desert. The desert will either tear up your tire or it will survive. Loose sharp rocks climbs and speed, and more rocks will destroy a tire. I've had two flats with Grabbers, one was a gash 3" long on outer sidewall and the other puncture was in the thread. I then decided to get a different model and guess what? After one 3 day javelina trip I'm missing large chunks of thread. This is on a stock 2wd 99' F-150, not anything hardcore at all. Then we went with Michelines and on the same roads there wasn't anyhting missing after the outing and there still isn't after 50k miles. You get what you pay for and I bought quality. Those Grabber AT2's do look very good and I'm sure they will perform mediocore in various situations but as far as lasting long and not losing chunks of thread in desert conditions they won't get you home. My BFG's have the rim protector built into the tire. Does any other brand have this feature?

REMEMBER: Quality vs Quantity The Grabbers are cheaper because they won't last and you'll go through more sets. I'm not trying to bash but I won't ever give that company any of my money again.

 

Well the only true problem with my bfg's where the where a ***** to keep up. I had to keep checking for soft tires on my old ranger with the bfg's. The at2's do have the rim protector just like the bfg's. As for strength of the at2's only time will tell. IF i had the money i would have bought the bfg's.

 

Wow! I didn't expect this thread to get this many replies. Thanks everyone for your opinions. I narrowed it down to the BFG or the Coopers.

 

BFG AT KO $165 EACH for 265/70/16 which is the size I got.

General Grabber AT2: $96 (they went up $6 since I bought mine)

Now lets do the math: $384 for the grabbers

and :: 660 for the bfgs

thats a $276 difference in tire. and when I bought my tires, that difference was right around $300 making the BFG's almost twice a expensive as the generals.

Remember, I paid $90 for my tires, thats $360 before shipping... the BFG's were $165, thats a $300 difference in price. Shipped price was $431 for mine, the bfg's would have been about $730 See the difference? that difference is HUGE.

so yes, the bfgs are just about 2x as expensive. as far as their capabilities, i am tickled pink with their performance, and i been driving thru everything cause i got that offroad itch again.

also they are snowflake approvved, have the M+S thingy, and a 60K mile warranty also i think the AT2's came out in 2003 i believe. so theyre 'new' to the market.

 

depends on what your going for snow - super swaper iroks, mud - super swamper boggers, and general use ne all terrian tire

 

anyone know about Wrangler MTRs in the snow?

 

Isn't the BFG brand owned by Michelin?! I was under the impression that Michelin and BFG tires were made by the same people in the end..
Which BFG tire 'like to get sidewayz'? The factory ATs I have have been excellent in the rain. Actually the one place I've had the most problem is in the sand.. Quite contrary to what you are saying. I do have a couple traction aids though. Maybe that is the deciding factor.

(I've since been told that I don't air down enough and that going to a lower PSI would let the tires perform better in the sand. I don't see sand often enough to have a lot of experience there.)

I've heard the BFG MT is murder in the rain. Based on what I've heard I'd never consider a set for my daily driver. But the ATs have been very good.

It is true, the BFG AT is not the best 'mud' tire ever made.. not even close. The 'self cleaning' concern you cite is definitely a problem. But then it doesn't pretend to be a MT tire either.

Buy the right tool for the job. The BFG AT is an excellent tool for daily drivers that see occasional off-road usage.

 

ummmmmm have you ever had a set of BFG A/T's? i really doubt you have since you think they "get sidewayz" in the rain.......they are EXCELLENT in the rain/snow because of all the siping.........

the BFG M/T's are slightly slick in the rain, but they will not "get sidewayz" unless you put your foot to hard in the skinny pedal......but so will the A/T's if you do that as with any other tire.....

show me another A/T or M/T that gets as good wear milage as the BFG's....

 

i would say bfg's too

 

im stickin to defending the Nittos, maybe they dont last as long, but they perform great. and look cool
.but i have never owned a set of BFGs so what do i know..

and i know batteries, duralast, interstate all of those are made by the same people if im correct.. just to individual specifications... do tires may be the same way?

 

go with BFG's i like mine.

 

some brands yes, but most major brands no...

 

technically speaking, and for road manners yes, but offroad some people prefer to have directional tires backwards

or some have the front set backwards, some have the rear correct

 

BFG's are the way to go!

 

i dont like bfgs that much just cause everyone and their mom has them... i have the duelers and they are decent but im a little dissappointed with them. i dont know much about the coopers.. i like the pro comps and i do like the bfg mud terrains. the new kumhos look nice as well...

 

good point.. those tires are sick looking as well... im thinkin about getting some of those next time i get new tires