That is some pretty weak rational. As has been said, there is a reason the tires are so popular..

 

step one up at revos (more expensive but a whole lot better)

 

hate to tell you but the apr is made by kelly springfield (discount sells em as the pathfinders) and kelly is made by goodyear.....and they are very crappy(quality) sorry...

 

bc they last a long time..?


goodyear MTRs
how are they in the snow? someone has to have done it

 

think of it this way. When you play baseball or football, do you want to wear sneakers on the feild? Or the correct shoes for the field? Its just like picking a tire, you cant pick an all terrain and try to go through mud expecting it to work like a mud terrain. Just a piece of mind, thats all

 

i dont know much about snow but i know that the bfgs are great tires used to have em on my f 250 and they were gread in everything so outa your choises id say the bfgs how ever i have a set of 35" hankook dynapros on my ranger and thier a little loud but other that that i love them thiergreat in mud and sand but we dont get to much mud ihere in florida

 

Correct, here's a quote from the Goodrich website
"The Goodrich Corporation has not made or sold tires in more than a decade. This business was sold to MNA, Inc., which continues to sell tires under the BFGoodrich brand"

MNA, INC. is Michelin North America

http://www.goodrich.com/CDA/GeneralC...277,39,00.html
http://www.michelin.com/corporate/fi...que=61&lang=EN

I've had Michelin LTX tires on my Ranger for a while now, and they are good tires. They wear and ride nicely, but I still lose rear traction in the rain. I guess that has more to do with the truck than my tires.

 

I didn't know and don't really care, I said they are crappy, but why buy crappy Generals for $90 when you can buy crappy generic for $40m and Get the same low quality? I think you missed the fact that They are on my $500 Pickup and It had 1500 miles put on it in 8 mos, I bet they'll dry rot before they'll wear out and if you got my point I said if the justification for buying Generals were they were cheaper why not go even cheaper and buy these. This is as much thought as I put into tires for my Pickup, I called my tire guy, "I need Cheap Cheap Tires, size 235/75r15, I don't care what brand just cheapest you got" End o call. But I appreciate you telling me I gave goodyear another Dime, that sucks, I bet these will seperate too like the wranglers did on the explorer this weekend (that makes 15 goodyear tires that have seperated on me, and I only paid for 8 of them. Goodyears suck. But if My GMC is still on the road next year I'd be surprised. I never REALLY Reccommended APRs as a Good Tire, I was making fun at the only justification for generals are that they are cheaper.

~HJ

 

If your argument is for these 'Trailmark' tires is that they are a viable alternative to equally low-quality tires, so be-it. But the OP was asking for advice on tires for a daily-driver that sees snow and ice. I suspect he's looking for somewhat better quality than that.

 

Hey hazzardjohn have you put a set of general at2's on any of your vehicles? If not then I dont know how you can say they suck but i have never owned them before. I owned bfg/general/goodyears so i can say from experience that these tires are good and stay away from those tire. I understand you dont like them but untill you have experienced them hands on you can't say they suck cause they cost $90. They are alot of tires that are expensive i won't touch and cheaper tires i wont touch either but if i have never used them and someone asked me about them i would say i dont know how those tires are and you will have to ask someone who has used them. I am not trying to start anything i am just telling people that you should listen to people who have these tires or have used them before you judge them.

 

i had 31" bfg all-terrains, and they were great. im runnin the same but in 33's now. id prefer get a bfg mud terrain though. if you want a good ride and long lasting tire, id go with the michelin ltx m/s, but it sounds like you need an all-terrain of some sort.