Sup fellas, so ive kinda fell in love with these tires and look like a soild on/off road tire. I was just wanting to get an imput on what everyone thinks about the tires I see every talk about how good they are with noise and off roading how they grip but also i was hoping to see what everyone thiings about the tread life is on them. Any info would be great. Id be getting them in some meaty 33-12.5!! I dont know why but the red lettering is really cool but not sure if it would look cool with the yellow, for some reason, i can see it looking sweet

 

I've wanted those since I first saw them! If I ever decide to go up to 35's that's what I'm getting if they're available!

 

i think the red would accent the yellow just fine! not to mention the badass tread.. i think they look awesome too.

-anyone tried out a set? or seen them around?

 

I think there's a guy from B.C. using them... can't remember his username on here though.

 

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Dark red truck. I think

 

i know who yall are talkin about...umm, fourliter dan! Im thinking im going to start calling around to see if anyone has it. ive seen that people say they dont have "siping" what is siping?

 

I know two people with em. Great tire, but they aren't lasting very long. Maybe 30K miles if my buddies are easy on em.

 

shoot!

 

That sucks... I don't want them anymore if that's all they'll last!

 

the red letters are just a glorified sticker also, if you do heavy trails or rock crawl; they're gonna come off. the prez of the jeep club i'm a part of got sponsored for his tj and some grabbers, he LOVES them on the rocks. on the street they are awesome also. km2's are better in the mud, but not anywhere else... i'm gonna quote one of his overall statements when i told him that i had a friend looking at them

"Tell him if he wants a tire that will do ok in mud.. awesome street manners and grips rocks and sand like it's nobody's mussiness.. then he won't be disappointed! "

now here's his "product review" thread...
http://midsouthjeeps.com/forums/view...hp?f=8&t=13451

 

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Siping is grip for ice. Look at a regular tire that's rated for m+s. You'll see little zig zag slices that's for snow and ice traction.

 

the only way to truly grip ice is with studs. sipped tires have grooves/slits whatever you want to call them in the tread so they clean themselves out easier and quicker. it also makes it a bit softer since there is space for the rubber to "flex". i guess it is a little better on ice but you'll still be crab walking on a frozen road in 4x4.

I'm pretty sure Dan loves his tires though, i've heard good things about them

 

Ya not getting these tires if they are only going to last me 30k miles. Time to keep looking...

 

how are they in the snow?

 

well being as we don't really get snow in MS idk....

 

lol it was ment as a general question not that really anyone has gotten any snow this year either

 

yeah but Charlie (MSJ prez) has had his since Aug 2010... he's had his over winter (or what we call winter in MS, nothing like a PA winter lol)

i need to get a mileage report and have him remeasure his thread depth

 

https://www.ranger-forums.com/wheels-tires-semi-tech-38/general-grabbers-110471/

 

suppose i should chime in naow....

so here is my long term word on these tires. they are a purpose built tire that is built to excel for the purpose they were made for, and they do...quite well in fact. dirt, snow, sand, gravel and you are set. i havent had them in mud, but i suspect they will not do the best there due to the lack of huge tread voids and the they way they are cut. however, on some trails they would do quite well.

i think the only down fall on this tire(and it could just be mine) is the noise, they are loud as hell!!!! bogger loud. but as i said it could just be mine.

all in all a fantastic tire really. over a year and alot of miles and im certain i can pull 2 more years out of them.

 

So if you get 2 more years that will be 3 years right? Average 12K miles per year which would make it a 36K mile tire?

Does that sound about right? I can't find anywhere where it says how long they last.

 

they grip on everything including mud very well, better than the mt/r kevlars and mine anyway are pretty quiet, on par with mt/rs, km2's.. dont have a clue how they could possibly be bogger loud?

 

36k miles ain't bad for a mud tire IMO. They ain't made for daily street use.

Charlies ain't any louder than most at's... I've rode in his jeep

 

I was hoping to get a good tread life on them, sweet that they are great off road but i want a nice on road tire with some off road use

 

like i said, it may be because mine are early early run, but mine are insanely loud.... maybe ill take a vid and show you guys

 

I knew someone in BC had them... just couldn't remember who!