SOHC Performance Is Finally HERE!!!
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man, yall need to ttake a darn chill pill.
if your gonna brag about it man, its rude not to say what you are doing.
your on a message board, where EVERYONE loves their truck and wants to improve it.
if your gonna brag about it man, its rude not to say what you are doing.
your on a message board, where EVERYONE loves their truck and wants to improve it.
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Originally Posted by fords4life
First i realize that it isn't finished, second, i realize you don't have a motor, third, when companies build performance parts they usually have numbers to go along with them......therefore it would be possible for you to have numbers on a motor built with the same parts you are having installed without you actually having the motor......
Now lets get this back on topic for the reason I posted in the first place and if anyone sees any actual numbers anytime soon, can you please post as i'm very interested in the parts for a future build up. Especially the durability issues and if the installation of the full line of parts will change to max RPM any. One of the things I will be looking for in the future is if they ever come out with a stroker kit for this motor.
Now lets get this back on topic for the reason I posted in the first place and if anyone sees any actual numbers anytime soon, can you please post as i'm very interested in the parts for a future build up. Especially the durability issues and if the installation of the full line of parts will change to max RPM any. One of the things I will be looking for in the future is if they ever come out with a stroker kit for this motor.
If you use just the heads, they will give you one set of ' numbers '. If youuse just teh cams, they will give you a different set. Put both together and you have a third number.. toss in pistons or any other combination with hedders or stock exhaust manifolds.. or the muffler...
I'd have to say theres no real ' numbers ' till everything is put together and tossed on a roller/engine dyno and metered. Honestly.. How could there be?
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Originally Posted by fords4life
Especially the durability issues and if the installation of the full line of parts will change to max RPM any. One of the things I will be looking for in the future is if they ever come out with a stroker kit for this motor.
Stroker kits are quite possible ( grin ) but for not much more displacement. Better rods would be QUITE welcomed by just about everyone.
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Originally Posted by D.
Numbers will always be different from whats ' advertised '. I have a SOHC block and heads and I'm pretty sure I'm over the 207hp mark without any ' power adders '.
If you use just the heads, they will give you one set of ' numbers '. If youuse just teh cams, they will give you a different set. Put both together and you have a third number.. toss in pistons or any other combination with hedders or stock exhaust manifolds.. or the muffler...
I'd have to say theres no real ' numbers ' till everything is put together and tossed on a roller/engine dyno and metered. Honestly.. How could there be?
If you use just the heads, they will give you one set of ' numbers '. If youuse just teh cams, they will give you a different set. Put both together and you have a third number.. toss in pistons or any other combination with hedders or stock exhaust manifolds.. or the muffler...
I'd have to say theres no real ' numbers ' till everything is put together and tossed on a roller/engine dyno and metered. Honestly.. How could there be?
I am completely aware of this, but he had mentioned that they all work good together so that was my main question, numbers on a total build. Most performance parts manufacturers test the parts to see if they perform so I figure there are numbers somewhere. I am currently working on getting those numbers from someone else anyway and if I can get some numbers I will post up here.
Thanks,
Nathan
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The following is the question I posed over on the SuperSix forums and the answer I received:
Question: I am lookin at building up the 4.0 in my Ranger for use in a naturally aspirated off-road application. I was wondering what kind of hp and torque numbers I'd be looking at with the installation of pistons, cams, and the stage 3 SuperHeads. The other question is what the RPM limit would be with this package, and what RPM range this kind of motor would run in for peak hp and torque. I already have a CAI, headers, and cat-back installed.
Answer: We don't have any dyno numbers yet, but we expect that the Stage 3 heads with the cams would add about 50 horsepower naturally aspirated. We'd recommend a 6500 RPM limit and set your shift points to shift at about 6200 rpm at WOT if the shifts are quick enough to happen beofre 6500 rpm.
It appears that the 4.0 crank is not gonna be happy with offset grinding, this means a billet crank will be required. We've looked at it but, we don't hink the V6 market would support a billet crank since the cost will be in the $2000 range or higher
Answer: We don't have any dyno numbers yet, but we expect that the Stage 3 heads with the cams would add about 50 horsepower naturally aspirated. We'd recommend a 6500 RPM limit and set your shift points to shift at about 6200 rpm at WOT if the shifts are quick enough to happen beofre 6500 rpm.
It appears that the 4.0 crank is not gonna be happy with offset grinding, this means a billet crank will be required. We've looked at it but, we don't hink the V6 market would support a billet crank since the cost will be in the $2000 range or higher
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Heads open up a whole new bucket of worms to work with. Something that someone wanting to go N/A only should look into would be to get Super Six to fab up one of their sheet metal intakes to go with those heads.
#33
12-04-2005
Originally Posted by FauX
Hey nick, Question. So if the SOHC 4.0 is the same as our rangers, will the turbo system that has been released for the 4.0 mustang work on our rangers as well?
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I was looking at the new procharger for the 4.0 stang. It is so sick looking, but definitly won't fit on our trucks.
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Originally Posted by NicksterSVT
you just keep playin with your radio.... even if i have numbers, im not gonna say because of pissants like you!!!!! yes i do have numbers..... u aint gettin them..... not from me...... i could answer all of the questions you asked, but i aint.....
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Have you seen the video's of Nick's truck??? The thing performs perfectly!
I have the heads and cams that Nick has on his truck and mine will chase down rice all day long! I can only imagine adding almost another 100HP on top of that with the blower!
I have the heads and cams that Nick has on his truck and mine will chase down rice all day long! I can only imagine adding almost another 100HP on top of that with the blower!
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Originally Posted by Wrongway
Sounds like someone spent a whole lot of coin on a combo that dont perform.
Hey newb, you tryin to call me out? Thats fine. No beef, just make sure you have your resources together...
#41
06-10-2006
Why you both bein *********. For the record tho, it seems NicksterSVT started it by actin like a dick in one of his posts. You both need to chill.
I don't give a **** about Nicksters truck. It's fast? Great. People who don't share info are losers, we live with it.
Aaron
I don't give a **** about Nicksters truck. It's fast? Great. People who don't share info are losers, we live with it.
Aaron
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Why you both bein *********. For the record tho, it seems NicksterSVT started it by actin like a dick in one of his posts.
When I started to toy with the bottle, I asked a lot of questions. a lot of people gave me flack and I never knew why. After I grenaded and posted about it, I recieved a LOT of laughs except for 1 person.
Doug Studdard of BamaChips was that person.
The reason I believe he helped me was I was in touch with the folks from Ohio ( Gerry, Wed Turner, ScottyG ) and some of the other ' known ' people from Detroit.
Theres a few different mindsets on forums. Those that are curious, those that are dreamers, and those that DO actually go through with what they wish to do.
After I had everything running and posted a timeslip and toyed with the bottle at a few meets ( anyone ever fly by a cop doing 120 at a meet? How bout have dave01978 in the passengers seat and almost do 100 into a ' Dicks sporting goods ' building?
) , EVERYONE asked more questions then I could answer.My PM box was constantly full, Emails came from everywhere, My cell phone rang.. After all this communication, how many SOHC owners do you see on ALL THE SITES COMBINED running a Nitrous setup? How about 3.0 owners who were all dancing with joy saying ' Im getting a whipple the day it comes out! '.. how many whipple owners are out there?
Anyone ever see me post a timeslip or numbers? It won't happen. Theres no point to it. A timeslip and those dyno numbers are just ' statistics ' and truly don't represent the effort put in to a vehical. If Nick posted a 13second run, there would be a slew of people saying ' a stock STi is faster then that! '.. to the contrare, a lot of jaws would drop.
A good example would be John Griggs or Bob Wenzinger. a LOT of people probably FILL their boxes. It can make forum browsing un-enjoyable.
What Nick probably feels is there are very few of us that are SERIOUS about what we say were going to do ( 3.0 whipple just as an example ) . Serious people would probably have contacted him off-site or privately and he would more then likely ( if it happened ) graciously share what he knows/has done and might even share some ' statistics '.
Theres a few people here whom know the ' statistics ' of my vehical. Hell, I let people drive it just by asking!
I'm not defending anyone, I'm not criticising anyone, just trying to lend a perspective on why I fee Nick might have replied in such a mannor.
Nick, I know your man enough to stand up for yourself, hope you don't think I'm stepping on your toes mate.
D.
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Originally Posted by D.
Nick, I know your man enough to stand up for yourself, hope you don't think I'm stepping on your toes mate.
D.
Not one bit!
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Originally Posted by Wrongway
No reason for any animosity. Hey it's cool, Just calling it like I see it. Nice truck by the way.
Calling it like you see what? You have seen nothing, you know nothing. I build 900hp lightnings... You question my judgement on how I spend money to make a vehicle run? I dont know you, nor do I care to..... You can call things like you feel necessary, but I personally would recommend checking into things a little better.
#45
06-10-2006
Originally Posted by D.
Theres a few people here whom know the ' statistics ' of my vehical. Hell, I let people drive it just by asking!
D.
wouldnt trade that one for anything!btw holy old thread batman!
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Originally Posted by Red_Ak_Ranger
Why you both bein *********. For the record tho, it seems NicksterSVT started it by actin like a dick in one of his posts. You both need to chill.
I don't give a **** about Nicksters truck. It's fast? Great. People who don't share info are losers, we live with it.
Aaron
I don't give a **** about Nicksters truck. It's fast? Great. People who don't share info are losers, we live with it.
Aaron
Ok, your turn... You claim to know sooo much about rangers? How long did it take you, or have you even finished your body lift? The thread I posted was back in december, someone is bringin up old stuff and you wanna try to chime in with your little brat comments. Noone asked you if you cared about my truck, I really wish you wouldnt ever comment on my personal belongings again. You call me a loser? What have you accomplished in your life? I work 2 jobs and currently taking on another full timer. If you crawl out from under your keyboard and Wake UP you punk, you may see that there are more things out there than just someone who lives on the other side of the nation not sharing numbers with people like you..... Dont even try to call me a loser, punk.
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Nick, we need to organize a demonstration...my truck with just heads and cams against your beast. Show them just what you have done!
When I had my 78 F250, I put a 250 shot of nitrous on it with fairly stock internals and a beefed fuel system. People didn't believe me till I put a video of it up on the net. Then they did just what D said...we a top fuel dragster is faster! It is a vicious circle, you just can't win.
When I had my 78 F250, I put a 250 shot of nitrous on it with fairly stock internals and a beefed fuel system. People didn't believe me till I put a video of it up on the net. Then they did just what D said...we a top fuel dragster is faster! It is a vicious circle, you just can't win.
#50
06-13-2006
Originally Posted by Redneckstone
ya and bloody drive a fast lap past peoples house where his dad is standing outside laughing his *** off as this blue blurr drives bye wouldnt trade that one for anything!
btw holy old thread batman!
wouldnt trade that one for anything!btw holy old thread batman!
