trouble disengaging 4wd
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trouble disengaging 4wd
when we got some snow last week i used 4wd and had a terrible time getting it to disengage at higher speeds, normally i could disengage at any speed without much hassle just let off the gas for a few seconds.
well as most know a lot of stuff has changed on my truck since the last time 4wd was used on the road at higher speeds.
different tires
different drive shafts (front and rear)
different gears (front and rear)
more lift (superlift)
under some suspicion i am wondering if this could be my tires that are effecting this. my front tires were bought brand new and my rear tires were bought used, the rear tires are pushing close to the wear bar and the fronts are still pretty much new. could this size difference be enough to cause issues going in and out of 4wd? at higher speeds i would think the size would be more noticeable.
do finally get it to disengage i would have to slow to under 20mph and i would get a thud and it would come out of 4wd.
any thoughts/ideas would be great/helpful
well as most know a lot of stuff has changed on my truck since the last time 4wd was used on the road at higher speeds.
different tires
different drive shafts (front and rear)
different gears (front and rear)
more lift (superlift)
under some suspicion i am wondering if this could be my tires that are effecting this. my front tires were bought brand new and my rear tires were bought used, the rear tires are pushing close to the wear bar and the fronts are still pretty much new. could this size difference be enough to cause issues going in and out of 4wd? at higher speeds i would think the size would be more noticeable.
do finally get it to disengage i would have to slow to under 20mph and i would get a thud and it would come out of 4wd.
any thoughts/ideas would be great/helpful
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Originally Posted by HighRollerII
ive never been in 4wd at high speeds..you can just lock it in? lol never knew that either
called something like shiftin on the fly!?!?!?
called something like shiftin on the fly!?!?!?
yea any speed really, flip the switch let off the gas for a second or two and then your in 4wd, same to disengage flip the switch let off the gas and a few seconds later it will be out of 4wd then get back in the gas.
i did it at 95mph because one of my buddies said it couldn't be done, worked fine.
also i have ran 80~85 in 4wd high several times.
i have never really had any issues until now.
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Originally Posted by Bigwill41
What the hell are you going thought, puttin your truck in 4wd at 85 mph
If it sand, i would of put it in 4wd before i go that fast..
The fastest i put it in 4wd is about 25 mph before i go thought a puddle of mud..
If it sand, i would of put it in 4wd before i go that fast..
The fastest i put it in 4wd is about 25 mph before i go thought a puddle of mud..
just driving man, up here roads can get slick fast. i didnt say it was right doing it but i know it works.
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Definitely need to take the pressure off.
But according to Ford, slight differences in tire size and so forth can cause large amounts of pressure on the gears of the transfer case on "hard" roads where the tires have problems slipping.
Higher traction tires, slight differences in size and inflation pressure, weight balance, etc. can all contribute to the loading of the transfer case.
Best thing to do is to take it out at lower speeds, and to pull onto a gravel or less "tractive" surface to let the wheels torque bias equalize a bit.
But according to Ford, slight differences in tire size and so forth can cause large amounts of pressure on the gears of the transfer case on "hard" roads where the tires have problems slipping.
Higher traction tires, slight differences in size and inflation pressure, weight balance, etc. can all contribute to the loading of the transfer case.
Best thing to do is to take it out at lower speeds, and to pull onto a gravel or less "tractive" surface to let the wheels torque bias equalize a bit.
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Originally Posted by n3elz
Definitely need to take the pressure off.
But according to Ford, slight differences in tire size and so forth can cause large amounts of pressure on the gears of the transfer case on "hard" roads where the tires have problems slipping.
Higher traction tires, slight differences in size and inflation pressure, weight balance, etc. can all contribute to the loading of the transfer case.
Best thing to do is to take it out at lower speeds, and to pull onto a gravel or less "tractive" surface to let the wheels torque bias equalize a bit.
But according to Ford, slight differences in tire size and so forth can cause large amounts of pressure on the gears of the transfer case on "hard" roads where the tires have problems slipping.
Higher traction tires, slight differences in size and inflation pressure, weight balance, etc. can all contribute to the loading of the transfer case.
Best thing to do is to take it out at lower speeds, and to pull onto a gravel or less "tractive" surface to let the wheels torque bias equalize a bit.
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Originally Posted by zabeard
does anyone know if the faster you go with tires of different size front and rear that it would cause the bind to be worse?
this is almost $500 in tires we are talking about here! maybe i can find someone that will let me swap their tires to my truck for a test...
this is almost $500 in tires we are talking about here! maybe i can find someone that will let me swap their tires to my truck for a test...
4x4 was NOT intended for hard surface high speed driving. It's a bad, bad idea -- particularly if you have to steer much at all. That's what AWD is for. You should only shift it into 4 wheel when traction conditions are appropriate or there is an actual problem getting moving.
This is particularly true with different size tires between the front and rear! You wouldn't put two different size tires on the right and left with a limited slip would you? No, because it would burn it up. You won't burn up your transfer case, but being in 4WD with different size tires front to rear stresses your differentials, u-joints, driveshafts, transfer case, etc.
Best NOT to use 4WD on hard surfaces, period, in your case.
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Originally Posted by zabeard
does anyone know if the faster you go with tires of different size front and rear that it would cause the bind to be worse?
this is almost $500 in tires we are talking about here! maybe i can find someone that will let me swap their tires to my truck for a test...
this is almost $500 in tires we are talking about here! maybe i can find someone that will let me swap their tires to my truck for a test...
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Originally Posted by n3elz
Think about it: the faster you go, the faster the rotational "difference" builds up and the more stress there is until finally something either breaks, or tires "slip" to relieve the stress.
4x4 was NOT intended for hard surface high speed driving. It's a bad, bad idea -- particularly if you have to steer much at all. That's what AWD is for. You should only shift it into 4 wheel when traction conditions are appropriate or there is an actual problem getting moving.
This is particularly true with different size tires between the front and rear! You wouldn't put two different size tires on the right and left with a limited slip would you? No, because it would burn it up. You won't burn up your transfer case, but being in 4WD with different size tires front to rear stresses your differentials, u-joints, driveshafts, transfer case, etc.
Best NOT to use 4WD on hard surfaces, period, in your case.
4x4 was NOT intended for hard surface high speed driving. It's a bad, bad idea -- particularly if you have to steer much at all. That's what AWD is for. You should only shift it into 4 wheel when traction conditions are appropriate or there is an actual problem getting moving.
This is particularly true with different size tires between the front and rear! You wouldn't put two different size tires on the right and left with a limited slip would you? No, because it would burn it up. You won't burn up your transfer case, but being in 4WD with different size tires front to rear stresses your differentials, u-joints, driveshafts, transfer case, etc.
Best NOT to use 4WD on hard surfaces, period, in your case.
well i was on snow covered roads, so they were slick, im prolly just going to order 2 more MTRs within the next week or so. I'm pretty sure that is what it is doing.
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ok this is just a thought i just had... people have problems with the electronic motor that engages the 4x4 with it not working and you follow those steps on therangerstation.com to clean it.... MAYBE it might be a good idea to pop it off and clean it over the winter brake. it *might* be the problem... just an idea..
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Cleaning it is a good idea if you offroad anyway, lol. Whether it's yet a problem or not, opening it up, cleaning it and inspecting for common trouble spots (like the end stop plastic piece) is a good idea.
Here's a reference from http://www.explorerforum.com that is good also: http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...d.php?t=123542
Here's a reference from http://www.explorerforum.com that is good also: http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...d.php?t=123542
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Originally Posted by zabeard
yea any speed really, flip the switch let off the gas for a second or two and then your in 4wd, same to disengage flip the switch let off the gas and a few seconds later it will be out of 4wd then get back in the gas.
i did it at 95mph because one of my buddies said it couldn't be done, worked fine.
also i have ran 80~85 in 4wd high several times.
i have never really had any issues until now.
i did it at 95mph because one of my buddies said it couldn't be done, worked fine.
also i have ran 80~85 in 4wd high several times.
i have never really had any issues until now.
hate to say it buddy, but with everything you've done (mod-wise) and high speed engaging, could be killing the t-case motor...although it may work fine, ford recommends that you don't engage above something like 70mph...maybe even lower!