Inner tie rod failure...
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Get out some tools and change them yourself. It's not worth risking driving with loose tie rods. Even a set of cheap new ones are better than worn out ones.
I've seen some pretty nasty wrecks caused by worn out tie rods coming apart.
Your not only risking your neck, but the necks of everyone else.
What year F150? How many miles and how has it been driven and maintained?
Normal tie rods only separate after severe wear or impact, if they are so loose they just fall apart, then their far past the point that they should have been replaced.
Some newer vehicles with rack and pinion steering use a stamped socket type of inner tie rod inside the rack boots. These tend to loosen far more often than do the old fashion type. Even a light curb tap or pot hole can jar these enough to develop play in the socket end of the inner tie rod. The outer joints on a rack & pinion vehicle are the same as the older style ball and socket joints.
2003 and newer F150's, 1998 and newer Rangers, and 1995 and newer Explorers use a Rack & Pinion type of steering.
I've seen some pretty nasty wrecks caused by worn out tie rods coming apart.
Your not only risking your neck, but the necks of everyone else.
What year F150? How many miles and how has it been driven and maintained?
Normal tie rods only separate after severe wear or impact, if they are so loose they just fall apart, then their far past the point that they should have been replaced.
Some newer vehicles with rack and pinion steering use a stamped socket type of inner tie rod inside the rack boots. These tend to loosen far more often than do the old fashion type. Even a light curb tap or pot hole can jar these enough to develop play in the socket end of the inner tie rod. The outer joints on a rack & pinion vehicle are the same as the older style ball and socket joints.
2003 and newer F150's, 1998 and newer Rangers, and 1995 and newer Explorers use a Rack & Pinion type of steering.
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its on my ranger. 2003, driven mainly on the street. 80,000 miles
its the socket style that are bad. I was asking if the socket would break or come apart.
you only speak of the old ball and socket style.
you do realize that i am cutting everything off the front end of this truck in 2-3 weeks?
and to change the inner tie rods the whole rack and pinion has to be removed. not an easy task. 6+ hours of work, i have already done it on an 04 before.
its the socket style that are bad. I was asking if the socket would break or come apart.
you only speak of the old ball and socket style.
you do realize that i am cutting everything off the front end of this truck in 2-3 weeks?
and to change the inner tie rods the whole rack and pinion has to be removed. not an easy task. 6+ hours of work, i have already done it on an 04 before.
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Originally Posted by Big04Ranger
my buddy changed mine in about 5 minutes.. then again he has the very cool tool that will reach right in there and grab it
oh i could do it in that amount of time too if i had the tool.
those morons at the dealer have the tool and they have it marked as 3 hours work time without doing an alignment!
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you can do it yourself, but i highly suggest the alignment!
every vehicle that rolls off the assy. line has to have an initial alignment done due to the fact that parts cast differently...
so even if you replace it, it won't carry the same caster/camber angles...
i can get you a brand new tie rod end for $25 if you need me too
every vehicle that rolls off the assy. line has to have an initial alignment done due to the fact that parts cast differently...
so even if you replace it, it won't carry the same caster/camber angles...
i can get you a brand new tie rod end for $25 if you need me too
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Originally Posted by Sad_Savant
so even if you replace it, it won't carry the same caster/camber angles...
for the short amount of time he would be runnin it till he cuts everything out if he marks and measures carefully enough he would be fine on a cheater toe set for a few weeks..
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Originally Posted by Sad_Savant
you can do it yourself, but i highly suggest the alignment!
every vehicle that rolls off the assy. line has to have an initial alignment done due to the fact that parts cast differently...
so even if you replace it, it won't carry the same caster/camber angles...
i can get you a brand new tie rod end for $25 if you need me too
every vehicle that rolls off the assy. line has to have an initial alignment done due to the fact that parts cast differently...
so even if you replace it, it won't carry the same caster/camber angles...
i can get you a brand new tie rod end for $25 if you need me too
we (bill and I) changed his... never again... what a pain
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mine snapped....
I just wrecked my 2000 on the highway, spinning and slamming into a jersey barrier. Once the truck was in the towing yard, I and the tow truck driver and a friend noticed the tie rod on the passenger side had snapped just short of the tie rod end - next to it - and that was not a corner where the truck had major impact damage as the impact was greatest at the rear of the truck. It appears at this point that the tie rod snapped and caused my truck to start to swerve, then rapidly swerve out of control, on a dry sunny morning. In those seconds when it started to swerve, i felt i had no control with the steering, no feel of the road, no response at all as i tried to correct in the seconds before it wildly started to swerve out of control.
The posts here show that this has happened to others, but has anybody else had as disastrous results? Have there been many cases of this that mite point to the tie rod as a failure item?
The posts here show that this has happened to others, but has anybody else had as disastrous results? Have there been many cases of this that mite point to the tie rod as a failure item?
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I just wrecked my 2000 on the highway, spinning and slamming into a jersey barrier. Once the truck was in the towing yard, I and the tow truck driver and a friend noticed the tie rod on the passenger side had snapped just short of the tie rod end - next to it - and that was not a corner where the truck had major impact damage as the impact was greatest at the rear of the truck. It appears at this point that the tie rod snapped and caused my truck to start to swerve, then rapidly swerve out of control, on a dry sunny morning. In those seconds when it started to swerve, i felt i had no control with the steering, no feel of the road, no response at all as i tried to correct in the seconds before it wildly started to swerve out of control.
The posts here show that this has happened to others, but has anybody else had as disastrous results? Have there been many cases of this that mite point to the tie rod as a failure item?
The posts here show that this has happened to others, but has anybody else had as disastrous results? Have there been many cases of this that mite point to the tie rod as a failure item?
please dont bump very old threads, especially after being inactive for 6 years.