Diesel ranger discussion.
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Diesel ranger discussion.
I watched last weekends trucks that featured Bio-diesel fuel. And I must say i was impressed. I think the next vehicle I buy will have to be diesel. The moment ford comes out with a diesel ranger I will be all over it like a fat kid on cake.
I have to wonder if the problems with the diesel rangers out side of the country were the emissions, woudl there still be an emissions problem ifit were running bio-diesel.
I have to wonder if the problems with the diesel rangers out side of the country were the emissions, woudl there still be an emissions problem ifit were running bio-diesel.
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Originally Posted by HarryTasker
I watched last weekends trucks that featured Bio-diesel fuel. And I must say i was impressed. I think the next vehicle I buy will have to be diesel. The moment ford comes out with a diesel ranger I will be all over it like a fat kid on cake.
I have to wonder if the problems with the diesel rangers out side of the country were the emissions, woudl there still be an emissions problem ifit were running bio-diesel.
I have to wonder if the problems with the diesel rangers out side of the country were the emissions, woudl there still be an emissions problem ifit were running bio-diesel.
In the U.S., a Ranger is looked on as a high value small truck or commuter vehicle. In the rest of the world, it is seen as more of a commercial truck. Foreign commercial fleet owners are willing to pay extra for an engine that is expected to go many more miles/kilometers and get better fuel economy. U.S. buyers looking for an attractively priced vehicle are not so interested in paying $1000~1500 extra for a diesel they may trade in 2~4 years with less than 100,000 miles.
About 20~25 years ago, there was a great deal of interest in diesels and several manufacturers were selling diesel cars and trucks (including Rangers) in the U.S. But, after a few years, owners found that there were a lot of problems with driveability, reliability and maintenance costs, not to mention the daily hassles that went with diesel ownership. A good portion of the buying public has not yet forgotten.
Recent technology that makes diesels easier to live with will help get them back into the mainstream. When driving a diesel vehicle no longer means expensive service, special starting techniques, extended warmups and a sooty bumper, it will be easy to sell the public on its efficiency.
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Originally Posted by rwenzing
In the U.S., a Ranger is looked on as a high value small truck or commuter vehicle. In the rest of the world, it is seen as more of a commercial truck. Foreign commercial fleet owners are willing to pay extra for an engine that is expected to go many more miles/kilometers and get better fuel economy. U.S. buyers looking for an attractively priced vehicle are not so interested in paying $1000~1500 extra for a diesel they may trade in 2~4 years with less than 100,000 miles.
Add to that the fact that the vehicle tax structure in Europe taxes gasoline per liter used, where it taxes diesel vehicles a flat rate each year. (Meaning gasoline users pay more at the pump in taxes, but less each year in registration/excise taxes, where diesel users do the opposite, thus throwing a bone to businesses/commercial groups.)
I'd still seriously consider one given the opportunity. Although if I were gonna pay ~$35k for a compact pickup, I'd hope the quality would be better than what we see today for the gas powered Ranger as well..
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Diesel would be nice, but with the sticker prices it would bring along you might as well buy a full size gas motor truck (F-150) with comparable power and better payload capacity for close to the same price, or maybe a tiny bit more. I can't imagine Ford putting a small diesel into a Ranger anymore powerful than a 4.6/5.4 gasser motor.
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Originally Posted by 3LiterBeater
Diesel would be nice, but with the sticker prices it would bring along you might as well buy a full size gas motor truck (F-150) with comparable power and better payload capacity for close to the same price, or maybe a tiny bit more. I can't imagine Ford putting a small diesel into a Ranger anymore powerful than a 4.6/5.4 gasser motor.
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I would like a diesel....They are very reliable, and like I read above you get the way better mileage and useage out of these engines. Just like you all said there are some inherent issues that they have.... Your average person on the street would have no clue to all the stuff to keep a diesel running.... Upkeep, for one is expensive... twice as much oil every oil change not just oil filters to change, but then you got fuel filters, keeping good fuel in it during the winter months.... List goes on and on.... Besides those points, there are alot of benefits to a diesel engine...
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Heres one on Ebay...$11,000 AU....yikes
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/2-8-Powerstro...QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/2-8-Powerstro...QQcmdZViewItem
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Originally Posted by bigwill41
I hate diesels...
They're so ****in loud...
They're so ****in loud...
that is the best part about them... i love the sound, the louder the better. lots of black smoke when on it(under load), white puff rings at idle, rattles and shakes, over 1400lbs of torque and 900hp o what fun... best part 20 mpg
even in the ranger the torque would be so sweet.
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Yeah I saw it yesterday(tivo'ed) $3000 is alot but you save about $2.00 a gallon so after 1500 gallons the machine is paid for. If you have a 40 gallon tank and burn that a week its paid for in 37 weeks, little over half a year. Got friends with deisels hello sell that to your friends at $1.70 a gallon thats $1 a gallon profit for you and your friend saves $1.00 a gallon at the pump. Make friends with a truck driver and that machine would pay for itself in no time.