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Lovin' it. Zach....keep up the good work.
 
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That is one BFT!
Good job man. That truck is freakin sweeeeet!
 
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pm'd ya with my idea.....
 
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damn thats awesome... the front axle doesn't look too much wider that the rear either
 
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great zach good to hear your in the right direction...
 
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Originally Posted by gatorblue92
damn thats awesome... the front axle doesn't look too much wider that the rear either

about an inch per side.
 
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Originally Posted by casfz1
Very nice Zach. Glad you got the steering fixed.

Did moving the steering box and track bar help the death wobble?

yes but ALOT of it was the angle of my balljoints on the 'C's i was way way way way way off.

still hard to steer, but like i say i think that is the intermediate shaft.
 
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THIS is what I need to fix...

My box, the splined shaft is at too much parallel w. the frame, I need to 'slant' it up more.

Brenton
 
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Glad its on the road man, looks great
 
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damn zach! Bree will be happy man! she's in love with your truck and she's really been keeping an eye on your thread, even through all the problems and everything!
 
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Nice man, your making me really really jealous!
 
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Originally Posted by EdGe_wannabe
THIS is what I need to fix...



My box, the splined shaft is at too much parallel w. the frame, I need to 'slant' it up more.

Brenton

yeah man it helps the angle of the steering shaft so much better.
 
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thanks for all the comments guys
 
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Originally Posted by lifted97ranger
sweet!....glad to hear it is working now!

to get rid of bump steer, get yourself a dual steering stabilizer for the vehicle your axle came out of.....i have a custom made brackets on my truck and man what a difference it made.....i need the dual setup, but that will come soon enough.....
Dual stablizers is a bandaid not a fix. the problem is still there you just masking it up alittle.
 
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what should i try then??? did i do something wrong? pointers?
 
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It looks like your driverside of your panhard and draglink have a pretty good gap. The axle end looks good, But the frame side looks like they arent close enough. But It doesnt look like your going to be able to get it any closer with out a new panhard.
 
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Originally Posted by redranger4.0
Dual stablizers is a bandaid not a fix. the problem is still there you just masking it up alittle.
bump steer is a known problem when you add larger tires......so you are saying that all the trucks that get lifted should get a complete modified front suspension to fix bump steer?

you will always have bump steer.......there are always going to be things that cause the wheels to vary.....the stabilizers do just that, stabilize them......when you hit a bump or hole, they keep the wheels pointed straight......because they dont allow the wheels to move because of the bump........hense why they call it bump steer.....and hense why they use stabilizers.......if you notice, ALL newer 3/4 and 1 ton trucks come factory with steering stabilizers on their 4x4 trucks.......oooo yea and my dad's semi came factory with a steerings stabilizer......it is a know fact that large diameter wheels will have bump steer and a stabilizer is what helps keep it to a minimum....
 
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Originally Posted by lifted97ranger
bump steer is a known problem when you add larger tires......so you are saying that all the trucks that get lifted should get a complete modified front suspension to fix bump steer?

you will always have bump steer.......there are always going to be things that cause the wheels to vary.....the stabilizers do just that, stabilize them......when you hit a bump or hole, they keep the wheels pointed straight......because they dont allow the wheels to move because of the bump........hense why they call it bump steer.....and hense why they use stabilizers.......if you notice, ALL newer 3/4 and 1 ton trucks come factory with steering stabilizers on their 4x4 trucks.......oooo yea and my dad's semi came factory with a steerings stabilizer......it is a know fact that large diameter wheels will have bump steer and a stabilizer is what helps keep it to a minimum....
Its still a bandaid. Its cheaper to throw a stablizer on there then it is to redeisgn a suspension. That doesnt mean its the best way to do it. in Zabeards case it might be, and Bump steer is attributed to steering angles more so then larger tires, the modifications you do to fit those tires are usually what make the steering angles worse. I know and have helped build a couple trucks that have really good steering angles, running 37" boggers on the road with zero bump steer.
 
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Originally Posted by redranger4.0
It looks like your driverside of your panhard and draglink have a pretty good gap. The axle end looks good, But the frame side looks like they arent close enough. But It doesnt look like your going to be able to get it any closer with out a new panhard.

that is what i figured. so maybe if i moved the pan hard down some and further out i would be better off??
 
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Originally Posted by zabeard
that is what i figured. so maybe if i moved the pan hard down some and further out i would be better off??
moving the frame side mount towards the pitman arm in the X direction is what you want to do. im not sure how much adjustablity your panhard has but, it looks like your pretty far from the pitman arm.
 
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trouble is you can only get it so close. i dont see how you could make it perfect.

but i think i will try and design it longer.
 
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Originally Posted by zabeard
trouble is you can only get it so close. i dont see how you could make it perfect.

but i think i will try and design it longer.
yea you cant make it perfect but you can get it pretty close. Obviously a small distance wont make a large difference but it apears to me yo uhave like 4-5 inches difference between the two. remember you have to look at each of those as a radius of a circle. a 4-5" difference in radius is a big difference when it comes to the arc of two circles.
 
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Originally Posted by redranger4.0
yea you cant make it perfect but you can get it pretty close. Obviously a small distance wont make a large difference but it apears to me yo uhave like 4-5 inches difference between the two. remember you have to look at each of those as a radius of a circle. a 4-5" difference in radius is a big difference when it comes to the arc of two circles.

oh yeah i know. it was way off before, since i moved the box it is much better now. but still needs improvement. i wish i would have taken more time on the track bar but i didnt. its not a hard fix though.
 
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this one is close but still not perfect

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might try and move it to the outside of the frame rail, and you would be much better off.
 


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