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Yeah, I would love to be Canadian too. I can cut down trees and drink beer, and hockey is fun to watch. I think I'm halfway there as it is.

The people in BC are freaking crazy divers. I was on a highway doing 80 kph, the speed limit, and I needed to do almost 125-135 kph in the fast lane to NOT get run over by trucks. Freaking crazy...
 
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Yeah, I would love to be Canadian too. I can cut down trees and drink beer, and hockey is fun to watch. I think I'm halfway there as it is.

The people in BC are freaking crazy divers. I was on a highway doing 80 kph, the speed limit, and I needed to do almost 125-135 kph in the fast lane to NOT get run over by trucks. Freaking crazy...
cut trees down? there are huge laws about that man... without a permit (which is hard for the average person to get) you can spend time in jail for cutting anything down, that is larger than 3, or 4 " in diameter, i forget which it is...

as for drink beer, and hockey, amen brother! although we don't have coors up here, it is pure sex! we only have coors light, and it is NOT the same...

i did 130 the entire 45 km to work tonight... where in bc were ya? i am from there...

*edit* we are WAY off topic... :(
 
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I was trying to do the normal Canadian stereotype. You know? The whole country is full of lumber jacks, hockey players, and are beeraholics? lol

I was about 75 miles out of Vancouver. I don't remember where at really. Are the speed limits like just ballpark figures or what? lol

Yeah.. well.. its late at night and I cant remember what the topic is....
 
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75 miles out of vancouver... you are looking hope area (east) or squamish area (north) or middle of the ocean (west) or bellingham area (south) based on the 80km/h, i would say it woudln't be the number 1, as it's all 100 till nearly the alberta border (about 7 hours) where it goes to 110... it wouldn't be the ocean, as it has no speed limit, and bellingham is 65mph zone (it's in the states) so squamish area is what i'm thinking... or could be whistler area... britanica beach is along that hiway... windy mountain road? i think the speed is 80 there...

speed limits are to be observed strictly



when there are marked police cars around :D

alternate answer: luckly you don't need to slow down to observe things
 
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I think it was hope. I was def. in Canadia. I dunno. It was about a year ago. I dont really have a memory. Too many head trama's...
 
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from vancouver, you drive along a flat, somewhat windy road, 2-3 lanes each way, with a very large median, for about an hourish, speed limit is 100 there, till nearly hope, at which point it goes into the mountains for about 15 minutes... the hiway through hope is 100 also, but there might be roads near hope that are 80
 
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well, we will see how it works out haha if its a cop behind me o well.
 
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just do it!!!!
 
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I have 2 lights under my bumper.. but the only way to turn them on is to put it in reverse.. If I wasn't so lazy I was going to wire them with a switch instead of just tapping into the reverse power wire haha
 
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well, we will see how it works out haha if its a cop behind me o well.
shine runners used to do this back in the day with revenuers to great effect and i think they stopped with the lights to get police to stop spiking the tires because they couldnt get em with a car lol
 
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just slam on your brakes and say "something ran across the road" he'll get the ticket.
x2 and make sure your neck hurts lol.
 
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I had a buddy in a Jeep get pulled over for having lights in the rear. The cop asked him if they were wired hot and of course he said no even though they were. he didnt get a ticket even though he could have But yeah my suggestion to you is wire them to a relay with a switch trigger as well as a trigger to your reverse lights just if a cop asks then you can put it in reverse and show him... But hide the switch so its out of plain sight
 
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honestly, i wouldn't go through the hastle of double wiring and hiding switches... semi trucks here have their switches on the dash, just say it's a 4x4 light, but you didn't turn it on... and if they insist, it's possible you bumped it...
 
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Sounds like a cool idea but you need to check your states vehicle code to be sure weather they are legal or not. If you are caught using them for the purposed stated in the beginning of this thread not only can you get a ticket but possible arrested for road rage. Same out come with the break check. Anything can be classified as road rage and it will be strictly the on scene officer’s opinion at the time of the incident. All jurisdictions Federal, State, or City get funding by tickets and bail so be careful with this. Not to mention the civil suit you could face even if you weren’t cited or arrested for this if the other person had an accident, injured or worst case even died. Just my two cents.
 
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Sounds like a cool idea but you need to check your states vehicle code to be sure weather they are legal or not. If you are caught using them for the purposed stated in the beginning of this thread not only can you get a ticket but possible arrested for road rage. Same out come with the break check. Anything can be classified as road rage and it will be strictly the on scene officer’s opinion at the time of the incident. All jurisdictions Federal, State, or City get funding by tickets and bail so be careful with this. Not to mention the civil suit you could face even if you weren’t cited or arrested for this if the other person had an accident, injured or worst case even died. Just my two cents.
bottom line... see you in court, guarantee i would win a civil suit, tickets and charges, the only thing that i might be found guilty of, is improper use of rear facing light
 

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Eh. Ticket goes to who ever was in the rear. Following too close. Trust me on this one. Doesn't matter what happens in front, whoever rear ends who the guy in the back is going to get ticketed like 98.99% of the time.
 
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Originally Posted by --weezl--
bottom line... see you in court, guarantee i would win a civil suit, tickets and charges, the only thing that i might be found guilty of, is improper use of rear facing light

Well here is what is written in the New Jersey Vehicle code book. This is the area that the original poster is from.

39:3-52. Additional lighting equipment
Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not more than two side cowl or fender lamps which shall emit a white or yellow light without glare. Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not more than one running board courtesy lamp on each side thereof which shall emit a white or yellow light without glare. Any motor vehicle may be equipped with a back-up lamp either separately or in combination with another lamp; except that no such back-up lamp shall be continuously lighted when the motor vehicle is in forward motion.

39:4-96. Reckless driving; punishment
39:4-96. A person who drives a vehicle heedlessly, in willful or wanton disregard of the rights or safety of others, in a manner so as to endanger, or be likely to endanger, a person or property, shall be guilty of reckless driving and be punished by imprisonment in the county or municipal jail for a period of not more than 60 days, or by a fine of not less than $50.00 or more than $200.00, or both.

On a second or subsequent conviction he shall be punished by imprisonment for not more than three months, or by a fine of not less than $100 or more than $500, or both.

"Act of road rage" means two or more of the following actions committed simultaneously or in immediate succession while operating a motor vehicle in close proximity to another vehicle during a single, continuous period [of driving for not more than five consecutive miles] :

(1) Excessive speeding involving any single offense for a speed of 25 miles per hour or more above the speed limit;

(2) Following a vehicle ahead too closely pursuant to R.S.39:4-89;

(3) Improper or erratic traffic lane changes;

(4) Improper overtaking or passing another vehicle off the pavement or main-traveled portion of the roadway, unless in conformity with R.S.39:4-85;

(5) Failing to yield the right of way;

(6) Violating official traffic control devices as defined in R.S.39:1-1; or

(7) Audible verbal threats or insults, flashing of lights, use of demeaning gestures or other such actions directed at persons driving lawfully, which, in the manner used, would cause a reasonable person to believe that the action was designed to display anger or to intimidate or threaten the person.

b. In addition to any other motor vehicle penalty, a person who engages in road rage:

(1) For a first offense shall have his license suspended for not less than 15 nor more than 30 days be subject to a fine of not less than $500 nor more than $1,000, or both; and

(2) For a second or subsequent offense within 24 months, shall have his license suspended for not less than 60 nor more than 120 days, be subject to a fine of not less than $1,000 nor more than $3,000, or both.

(3) When notified by a court of competent jurisdiction that a person has been convicted of a violation of P.L. , c. (C. ) (pending before the Legislature as this bill), the New Jersey Motor Vehicle Commission shall require the person to attend a training and education class on road rage or anger management that is either conducted or approved by the chief administrator, before reinstatement of the person's driver's license.

c. The chief administrator shall promulgate rules and regulations pursuant to the "Administrative Procedure Act," P.L.1968, c.410 (C.52:14B-1 et seq.), in order to establish a program of training and education on road rage or anger management, as prescribed by this act.

So do the research in the area you live in so you don't have to go through all of this. I have been a Military Police Officer for 11 years and had to learn the state laws in 5 diffrent states and they are all written and enforced diffrently. Just trying to help out to many what we call sea lawyers giving advise on what they have been told not what is actually written.
 

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owned.
 
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owned? you obviously don't know what any of that means


except that no such back-up lamp shall be continuously lighted when the motor vehicle is in forward motion.
the key word here is "continuously" lighted when vehicle is in forward motion... which means that the light can be turned on breifly and turned back off legally!

39:4-96. A person who drives a vehicle heedlessly, in willful or wanton disregard of the rights or safety of others, in a manner so as to endanger, or be likely to endanger, a person or property, shall be guilty of reckless driving
this one is the closest to something you could be found guilty of, however, it is all in how the defence is worded, if you slammed on the brakes with the intent of running someone off the road, yeah, you would be guilty, but if you tapped your brakes lightly, to illuminate your brake lights, to notify the driver behind you, that you think he is following too closely, and he rear-ends you, who's fault is that? how can you be held liable for someone hitting you if something runs out in front of your car?

"Act of road rage" means two or more of the following actions committed simultaneously or in immediate succession while operating a motor vehicle in close proximity to another vehicle during a single, continuous period [of driving for not more than five consecutive miles] :
i understand you bring this up, but take a look at the section i have highlighted, you only highlighted "flashing lights"

like i said, i'm sure you could get pulled over and charged with the above offences, but i will see you in court and i guarantee i will win
 
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idk bout you but my truck is old and dont really care bout it. i just hit the breaks kinda hard and drive 15mph
 
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owned? you obviously don't know what any of that means
and I obviously don't give a fck because I didn't read more than like a sentence of it.
 
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if the guy crashes you will be held liable for it..... and thats the bottom line cuz stone cold said so
wtf
 
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easy now fellas just a statement
 
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you mean kinda like i did cucukid124
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yeah thats it
 


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