Redranger4.0's SAS The Never Ending Project....
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At least add a kick in the rear downtube on the cage, looks fugly with a straight tube from b-pillar to frame. Or if your set on a straight tube, add a bend and have the tube hit the frame perpendicular with about 24". It'll clean it up a whole lot.
Also have 2 x's in side the cab will be a waste. You can get away with an x at the back of the cab and behind the seats just run a bar for your seat belts.
The bottom left lace that funs from the frame rail to the middle of tube at the dash needs to be brought up so that it connects to the bend, unless your going to have a tube on the other side of your a-pillar to back it up. The little "gusset" tubes in the corners of the b-pillar are un-needed as well.
Just some observations :)
EDIT: Another Idea, you could bring the x up behind the seats and just run a hoop at the back of the cab or run your roof lace from the x straight out the back of the cab instead of adding all that extra tube.
Also have 2 x's in side the cab will be a waste. You can get away with an x at the back of the cab and behind the seats just run a bar for your seat belts.
The bottom left lace that funs from the frame rail to the middle of tube at the dash needs to be brought up so that it connects to the bend, unless your going to have a tube on the other side of your a-pillar to back it up. The little "gusset" tubes in the corners of the b-pillar are un-needed as well.
Just some observations :)
EDIT: Another Idea, you could bring the x up behind the seats and just run a hoop at the back of the cab or run your roof lace from the x straight out the back of the cab instead of adding all that extra tube.
#127
Originally Posted by 034x4
At least add a kick in the rear downtube on the cage, looks fugly with a straight tube from b-pillar to frame. Or if your set on a straight tube, add a bend and have the tube hit the frame perpendicular with about 24". It'll clean it up a whole lot.
Also have 2 x's in side the cab will be a waste. You can get away with an x at the back of the cab and behind the seats just run a bar for your seat belts.
The bottom left lace that funs from the frame rail to the middle of tube at the dash needs to be brought up so that it connects to the bend, unless your going to have a tube on the other side of your a-pillar to back it up. The little "gusset" tubes in the corners of the b-pillar are un-needed as well.
Just some observations :)
EDIT: Another Idea, you could bring the x up behind the seats and just run a hoop at the back of the cab or run your roof lace from the x straight out the back of the cab instead of adding all that extra tube.
Also have 2 x's in side the cab will be a waste. You can get away with an x at the back of the cab and behind the seats just run a bar for your seat belts.
The bottom left lace that funs from the frame rail to the middle of tube at the dash needs to be brought up so that it connects to the bend, unless your going to have a tube on the other side of your a-pillar to back it up. The little "gusset" tubes in the corners of the b-pillar are un-needed as well.
Just some observations :)
EDIT: Another Idea, you could bring the x up behind the seats and just run a hoop at the back of the cab or run your roof lace from the x straight out the back of the cab instead of adding all that extra tube.
Edit: and the second door bar should be in the bend of the A pillar, thats just crappy drawing on my part.
#129
I just dropped my set of stock leafs off with Bucknasty and in trade I am getting his deavers. The chevy leafs dont give me enough lift in the back to match the front and blocks are not an option. so my two choices are to run the deavers and move the front mount back to the stock location or to use the stock leaf hangers I got from Jason and make a new drop hanger for the rear.
#131
Originally Posted by 034x4
I thought you were runnin coil-overs on all 4?
EDIT: Just saw the cad drawing of the front suspension, why don't you triangulate the upper and/or kick it down into one of the lowers to alleviate any possible clearance issues.
EDIT: Just saw the cad drawing of the front suspension, why don't you triangulate the upper and/or kick it down into one of the lowers to alleviate any possible clearance issues.
If I tie the upper link in to one of the lowers im going to lose that geometry of the 3 link. Which isnt really a huge deal as I dont plan on Running HUGE travel in the front due to trying to keep it low and clearance issues. I just never liked the pinion motion through travel with radius arm style 3 link. But it is something I will defidently have to look into as it would make building the front alot simpler.
Edit: Im also working on that updated Cage drawing right now too.
#132
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Now for some explaining. The design I have is prolly overkill for my truck but Ive been browsing and doing alot of my research off of desert trucks. The dotted line is a bar I didnt think I needed but wanted to throw in there to get opinions on if it would really help support that upper A pillar bend. There is no bend at the dash, it is a vertical bar that meets the horizontal dash bar then the seperate continuation of the A pillar to roof bar. From what Ive read and looked at in the dezert trucks these design has both a ease of installing the cage and has a small strength advantage over a bend in that spot. It also makes the one leg of my door bar easier to tie into that node. The two angled bars between the B and C pillar, I switched just to create a stronger node in the back since the B pillar middle will just be a cross bar for harnesses. I did add some more bars to the C pillar middle which is where the overkill comes in but I figure its only like 10-12 feet of extra tube which isnt that bad. I do like the continuous length bar to the end of the frame behind the cab , but Im open to design Ideas. There would be tubes underneath that long bar just didnt draw them in. The second picture is of another behind the cab design. It would prolly work better for carring my spare tire and having storage and a place to mount my Fuel Cell/tank.
Now, Comments?
Now for some explaining. The design I have is prolly overkill for my truck but Ive been browsing and doing alot of my research off of desert trucks. The dotted line is a bar I didnt think I needed but wanted to throw in there to get opinions on if it would really help support that upper A pillar bend. There is no bend at the dash, it is a vertical bar that meets the horizontal dash bar then the seperate continuation of the A pillar to roof bar. From what Ive read and looked at in the dezert trucks these design has both a ease of installing the cage and has a small strength advantage over a bend in that spot. It also makes the one leg of my door bar easier to tie into that node. The two angled bars between the B and C pillar, I switched just to create a stronger node in the back since the B pillar middle will just be a cross bar for harnesses. I did add some more bars to the C pillar middle which is where the overkill comes in but I figure its only like 10-12 feet of extra tube which isnt that bad. I do like the continuous length bar to the end of the frame behind the cab , but Im open to design Ideas. There would be tubes underneath that long bar just didnt draw them in. The second picture is of another behind the cab design. It would prolly work better for carring my spare tire and having storage and a place to mount my Fuel Cell/tank.
Now, Comments?
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I would move the X to the b-pillar, and get rid of the c-pillar all-together (since theres what, a foot behind the b-pillar where the c-pillar would be?). Or keep the c-pillar but don't put any cross bracing in. The straight verticle bar in your "back" drawing is really un-needed. I've been asking around at work and school and everyones agreed with me about the x in the b pillar and c pillar.
If you want more a-pillar support you could do something like this...
If you want more a-pillar support you could do something like this...
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Yea harness' will be going in since I have the PRP highbacks now. Im drawing up another design for the cage right now. I should have some new pictures up tonight. I have alot of free time while my CNC does its operation.
My plan is to move the B pillar back a little bit (not much, couple inches) and run the C pillar outside the truck, part of the bed.
My plan is to move the B pillar back a little bit (not much, couple inches) and run the C pillar outside the truck, part of the bed.
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Originally Posted by redranger4.0
My plan is to move the B pillar back a little bit (not much, couple inches) and run the C pillar outside the truck, part of the bed.