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What is a SAS and what is the purpose of it? (Noob question)

i ve been seeing you guys getting all excited about other guys doing a SAS, and im like what in the world is a SAS. By reading some of the posts and looking at pictures...is it a complete suspension rebuild with all better components? How much does this project take, and whats the end result? Sorry guys but im not that advanced, but willing to learn!!
 
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its a SOLID AXLE SWAP. it replaces the IFS on our trucks with a Solid axle out of another vehicle. This yeilds a stronger and better performing suspension for wheeling.
 
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^^^ what he said, plus there's multiple different setups u can do with it, also if u were to do this.. if u run up to a 35in tire u can use a dana 30.. anything larger a dana 4o or 44 is recommened (forgot if there is a dana 40 or not).. this is hopefully in the near future for myself... i have the hook up on a sortened (5.5inches i think) dana 44 wo0t!... here's a good example i think.. of a SAS only thing i dont like bout it is the dana 30 he's using to run thoses tires, i do agree that should come out ASAP! lol



here's a front pic of the SAS..


^^ that axle looks like a toothpick lol
 

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That is the worst example of an SAS you could have posted.

Here are some better samples:



 
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well put
 
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zach's truck is a verrry good example of a SAS.. but everyone has there differnt tastes n opions bout trucks on this site...


btw: did u not read the part where i said: here's a good example i think
 

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i think that red ranger is f*cking sweet for the street. Only problem with it is those ***** axles hes got under with with that setup. Im hoping mine doesnt look as retarded though. We shall find out.
 
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Originally Posted by red_fx2


Is it just me, or is something (front drive shaft) missing from this picture?
 
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ya it was never installed?
 
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That front axle will snap like a twig in the mud.
 
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might want to look even closer, and notice there is no transfer case as well. never made the 4wd conversion, sold his transfer case to jey as well.
 
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^^ good call.. didnt even see that... hmm interesting...
 
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mine is not that good of an example yet.

after further research i like what Andrew has been working on. 3 link, 4 link etc... mine is ok but has its trouble spots...
 
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Originally Posted by got-dirty
might want to look even closer, and notice there is no transfer case as well. never made the 4wd conversion, sold his transfer case to jey as well.

Yea....I noticed that as well. Isn't that one of the 80's xj d30s with the vacuum split shafts??
 
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Originally Posted by Fx4wannabe01
Yea....I noticed that as well. Isn't that one of the 80's xj d30s with the vacuum split shafts??

no its not it would have a bigger housing on the passenger side of the pumkin
 
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whoops.....i'm thinking back asswards.
 
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So thats what it means I thought it meant Super Awsome Suspension! lol
 
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Oh yea....to answer the question........a solid axle is WAY less complicated than the IFS setup. Less complicated, less moving parts, less to brake. Simple as hell. And in most cases, stronger.....it'll withstand more than what a IFS will. All in all, I am doing a SAS....because it'll be cheaper to sas than a ifs lift kit will be to purchase. And VERY easily upgradible.
 
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Originally Posted by Fx4wannabe01
Oh yea....to answer the question........a solid axle is WAY less complicated than the IFS setup. Less complicated, less moving parts, less to brake. Simple as hell. And in most cases, stronger.....it'll withstand more than what a IFS will. All in all, I am doing a SAS....because it'll be cheaper to sas than a ifs lift kit will be to purchase. And VERY easily upgradible.

cheaper ? haha
 
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lol zach....urs is exp cause for one u did coils. 2 ...well i dunno lol. who cares its dead fawkin sexii :).
 
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lol zach....urs is exp cause for one u did coils. 2 ...well i dunno lol. who cares its dead fawkin sexii :).

i priced both leafs and coils. leafs were atleast 2500+ and coils 3000+

only difference with my leaf spring setup that i was looking at i would have had a D44 from the get go.

i dont know of any IFS "lift kit" that costs that much
 
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well remember some ppl buy the kit then pay to instal...and that is what kills prices is the labor
 
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Im upwards of 5500 in my swap, and i still have to buy my upper link, and a crap load of misc stuff. Not to mention the 200-250 feet of tube that will be going on the truck.
 
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wow...just terrible.



a Solid Front Axle basically allows for a more simple, more reliable, cheaper, and more capable offroad suspension. there countless ways to set it up, but offroad, each setup is lightyears better than IFS.


pictures may explain more......you can't do this with an IFS








if you're spending $2500 on leaf springs and $3000 on coils.....you didn't do your homework.
 
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Originally Posted by zabeard
no its not it would have a bigger housing on the passenger side of the pumkin
the red truck has the CAD vaccum system.
 


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