Escape TB question
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They are freaking small and way restrictive! That's whats wrong with them! You should be able to hook up the cruise some how, but you may have to get a different accelerator cable, or make a new bracket. The old 4.0s had the cruise cable attached to the accelerator cable at the throttle body.
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They are freaking small and way restrictive! That's whats wrong with them! You should be able to hook up the cruise some how, but you may have to get a different accelerator cable, or make a new bracket. The old 4.0s had the cruise cable attached to the accelerator cable at the throttle body.
cylinders is important, and by making the throttle body bigger will decrease
the air velocity entering the upper intake?
#5
Yeah, I guess that rules out the fact that when somebody does the swap, they get more power and better fuel economy. Have you ever looked at one? They are only slightly larger than a half dollar piece. I wasn't being a dick towards you, but why do you think people swap out throttle bodies on other vehicles such as Mustangs or Camaros??? To just blow their money on a piece of machined aluminum? NO. They do it because other people have done it and have gotten good results out of it. Yes, velocity is important at lower RPMs, but the 3.0s don't have any low end anyway. Mine doesn't start to build power until about 2500 RPM, so a larger throttle body isn't going to hurt torque much. It will help to build horsepower at higher RPMs for sure.
Last edited by 05prerunner; 09-08-2008 at 10:25 AM.
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Yeah, I guess that rules out the fact that when somebody does the swap, they get more power and better fule economy. Have you ever looked at one? They are only slightly larger than a half dollar piece. I wasn't being a dick towards you, but why do you think people swap out throttle bodies on other vehicles such as Mustangs or Camaros??? To just blow their money on a piece of machined aluminum? NO. They do it because other people have done it and have gotten good results out of it. Yes, velocity is important at lower RPMs, but the 3.0s don't have any low end anyway. Mine doesn't start to build power until about 2500 RPM, so a larger throttle body isn't going to hurt torque much. It will help to build horsepower at higher RPMs for sure.
There is a lot more to the intake system than just the throttle body!
#7
What you are arguing doesn't make any sense dude. So basically, if I throw a blower on the mustang and it is clearly quicker on the "butt dyno" as you called it, that doesn't matter? And no **** that there is more to do to an intake than the throttle body. There is volume of the intake manifold, runner shape, runner size, ect, ect, ect. The limiting factor on a stock 3.0 intake system is the airbox (which isn't too bad) and the throttle body. That is FACT, PERIOD. I have seen 2 rangers, both with 3.0s, that have installed escape throttle bodies and dropped 2 tenths of a second off in the eighth mile, in the same track conditions. No other mods were made. But WTF do I know, right? I guess obvious improvements are not enough fact, or is it that you think changing or modding parts on a vehicle should be a sin? Im done here, I don't need a dumbass like you to over think things with technical bull**** that doesn't mean jack in the real world. If I had to guess, I'd say you were an engineer just by the way you are talking. You put everything on paper, and if it doesn't add up, you assume it isn't possible. Many many things should FAIL on paper, but in the real world, some of those actually work for some unknown reason. So do us all a favor and pull your head out of your *** and start looking at things in a real world point of view.
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What you are arguing doesn't make any sense dude. So basically, if I throw a blower on the mustang and it is clearly quicker on the "butt dyno" as you called it, that doesn't matter? And no **** that there is more to do to an intake than the throttle body. There is volume of the intake manifold, runner shape, runner size, ect, ect, ect. The limiting factor on a stock 3.0 intake system is the airbox (which isn't too bad) and the throttle body. That is FACT, PERIOD. I have seen 2 rangers, both with 3.0s, that have installed escape throttle bodies and dropped 2 tenths of a second off in the eighth mile, in the same track conditions. No other mods were made. But WTF do I know, right? I guess obvious improvements are not enough fact, or is it that you think changing or modding parts on a vehicle should be a sin? Im done here, I don't need a dumbass like you to over think things with technical bull**** that doesn't mean jack in the real world. If I had to guess, I'd say you were an engineer just by the way you are talking. You put everything on paper, and if it doesn't add up, you assume it isn't possible. Many many things should FAIL on paper, but in the real world, some of those actually work for some unknown reason. So do us all a favor and pull your head out of your *** and start looking at things in a real world point of view.
Besides that, you can get more that 2 tenths of a sec variation just in reaction time, look at Rich's 67th post in this thread:
https://www.ranger-forums.com/forum2...ad.php?t=68220
Last edited by Takeda; 09-09-2008 at 04:34 AM.
#9
Do you even know what CAFE standards are?
#10
Besides that, you can get more that 2 tenths of a sec variation just in reaction time, look at Rich's 67th post in this thread:
https://www.ranger-forums.com/forum2...ad.php?t=68220
https://www.ranger-forums.com/forum2...ad.php?t=68220
#11
Like I said before, Im done arguing about it, but all I have to say is let me mod away my 3.0, and I'll get better MPGs and be able to smoke Bob's *** both at the same time. Who cares what he thinks. He has a bad reputation on here of being stuck on the "stock is as good as it gets" attitude. To him, Ford built it as good as it can be built, and there is absolutely no room for improvement, which we all know is bull****. If there is no room for imrovement then there would be no market for exhaust kits, air intakes (which aparently ours flows like a million CFM and has awesome velocity too, in stock form according to Bob), programers, pulleys, or other parts such as those. Guys, don't do any of these mods, you are ruining your truck and making it have less power and less fuel mileage! LOLOLOL!!!! (being very sarcastic here)
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So... you've never desired to have ore power from your truck? Not to race it, but for towing, hualing, or better drivability? I'm not saying you should go out and start racing your truck, like you said, its a freakin truck for crying out loud. But you have to admit that the 3.0s aren't powerhouses, and for some people, a little more power can be a big help. A good way to see if a mod helped is to take it to the strip, not to race other people and try to win, but to compare your time to previous (before mods) runs and see how much power and torque you gained.
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