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Decided exhaust, what do you guys do for intakes then?

Hey guys, was wondering what brand you use for cold air intakes or if they make short ram, does not really matter to much. Thanks in advance.
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I use the ford brand considering it is already a cold air intake, plus my engine has no VE increasing modifications; I don't want to waste my money on parts that claim to help performance, but really don't.

The stock intake and exhaust are not constraints given a stock performing engine. Port your head(s) or tune your computer if you want better performance.

Not trying to be a *****, but without headwork, boost or something similar you will gain nothing from an open filter unless you constantly drive around with rpms near redline.
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k&n fipk
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K&N FIPK i always thought I gained from mine, if nothing else it sounds good
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K&N FIPK i always thought I gained from mine, if nothing else it sounds good
You gain in the fact that it is less restrictive. The problem is everything up stream is more restrictive than the intake is. Think about it as sucking in a milkshake through different size straws. At some point, there is no difference.

At high RPM near redline your engine is creating more flow because the you have more power pulses per unit time. This is when flow is the highest. If you did gain anything it would only be evident here and you can only "feel it" on the dyno, not by the seat of your pants. This has been covered too many times.
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Ya, I know it may not do any power gain, but I do love the sound haha, do you guys on here do your own porting? I was about to do it on my Honda when I owned it, but never bought a spare head, I was thinking about port matching the intake to the head, thats easy though. How much is head work for these heads? Thanks guys
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You gain in the fact that it is less restrictive. The problem is everything up stream is more restrictive than the intake is. Think about it as sucking in a milkshake through different size straws. At some point, there is no difference.

At high RPM near redline your engine is creating more flow because the you have more power pulses per unit time. This is when flow is the highest. If you did gain anything it would only be evident here and you can only "feel it" on the dyno, not by the seat of your pants. This has been covered too many times.
ahh i gotcha, would the 65mm throttle bodies that tom morana sells make the intake more useful?
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http://www.moranav6racing.com/catego...?CategoryID=36
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no intake manifold is doing the restricting. Hence porting! if you want to use jp7 idea your intake manifold is the narrowest part of your straw.
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The stock intake and exhaust are not constraints given a stock performing engine.
I'm going to have to disagree. The thunberbolt(or whatever special model Ranger it was) had intake and exhaust from the factory and it was rated with more power than a standard SOHC 4.0. The stock components are made to keep the truck silent so they create a restriction while being silent.

K&N FIPK sucks. I had one and all it does is suck in hot engine bay air. Get something that encloses the filter. If I was building my Ranger up then intake would be the last thing to go on.
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I'm going to have to disagree. The thunberbolt(or whatever special model Ranger it was) had intake and exhaust from the factory and it was rated with more power than a standard SOHC 4.0. The stock components are made to keep the truck silent so they create a restriction while being silent.

K&N FIPK sucks. I had one and all it does is suck in hot engine bay air. Get something that encloses the filter. If I was building my Ranger up then intake would be the last thing to go on.
Is that what the brochure said?
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Is that what the brochure said? :D
Ummm no. Its what everything says. Ford, Edmunds, KBB.
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What year was that? just curios
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Don't know. I don't even think it was called the Thunderbolt.
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Well i do know that the 01+ fords were designed with a high flow exhaust and intake to build more power then previous years.
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Yeah but they are still designed to be quiet. Also the engine changed in 01 (at least the 4.0 did).
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Fond info. http://www.therangerstation.com/reso...hunderbolt.htm

The performance package, with its combination of improved air inflow (via an under-hood cold air box, and exhaust outflow (courtesy of a cat-back exhaust system with dual outlets) increases the engine output by about eight percent (to 160 hp for the 3.0L V6 and 222 hp for the 4.0L V6).
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so what intake would you recommend if not K & N and also why would it be the last thing? if all the factory did was throw on an intake and cat-back wouldn't it make sense to be the first thing?
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Yeah but they used a Roush intake not a K&N. The Roush intake sheilds the intake from taking in hot air. You can sometimes find them on ebay.
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i have a K&N right now and i have no problem with it but if there is another aftermarket intake out there that will perform better i'll get it, short of the Roush intake, what is the next best one?
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Not sure if Volant makes an intake for the 3.0 but that is way better but it will cost you. The stock computer pulls timing at just 80 degrees and most of the time the engine bay is above that.
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does look nice, would it actually make any performance improvements though? considering your milkshake/straw example


http://volant.com/edetail.asp?ID=65

http://volant.com/3dkls/iddb/Tfile/F...res/19630i.jpg

on the website its priced at $305.55
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Christian I see what you are saying but I seriously doubt the maps are the same for the upgraded truck. This is what I mean by "stock performing" engine.
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hey fddriver i noticed in another thread you posted a pic of an intake that puts the filter inside the fender well...any idea where i can get one of those?
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Christian I see what you are saying but I seriously doubt the maps are the same for the upgraded truck. This is what I mean by "stock performing" engine.
I don't doubt it. This is Ford we are talking about.

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hey fddriver i noticed in another thread you posted a pic of an intake that puts the filter inside the fender well...any idea where i can get one of those?
It won't fit a 3.0. I'm sure you can make your own with a MAF adapter and some tubes. Main site Intake
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Not sure if Volant makes an intake for the 3.0 but that is way better but it will cost you. The stock computer pulls timing at just 80 degrees and most of the time the engine bay is above that.
Hehe, made me think about the timing I was pulling earlier, so much fun pulling timing with no load!
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