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I love having my programmer

On 93 i'm avg 20-22mpg ALL city with LOTs of stop and go. With 87 i'm getting around 19-20. I can't wait to see what I get on the hwy It's a nice jump since I was avg around 16-16.5 before the programmer and around 19hwy before. So i'm hoping I can get around 24hwy. If I do I will be a very happy person!
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thats good, thats really good.... but my only question is how long until it will pay for itself and for the extra money in gas....
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Man, I really need to get one of those. I heard 3.0's get the worst mileage too out of all the motors they put in the rangers.
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man your telling me i need to get one too....
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thats good, thats really good.... but my only question is how long until it will pay for itself and for the extra money in gas....
Using his given MPG increase of approx 19%, you can calculate it to take about 47 tank fulls to equal the $400 it takes to buy the programmer.
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Using his given MPG increase of approx 19%, you can calculate it to take about 47 tank fulls to equal the $400 it takes to buy the programmer.

need we also not forget that there is the added benefit to the programmer that is extra POWER

cost: $$ / BENFIT: MPG & POWER
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Using his given MPG increase of approx 19%, you can calculate it to take about 47 tank fulls to equal the $400 it takes to buy the programmer.
On top of that I am a driver for dominos and I work fulltime. I do NOT fill up for work. However I spent about 300 a month in gas. So this increase will be well worth it. I drive roughly about 100 miles a night.
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right, the fuel savings is only a part of the reason for buying one, the performance is another huge factor, but when you can have performance AND increased fuel mileage, it really makes it more worth it
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right, the fuel savings is only a part of the reason for buying one, the performance is another huge factor, but when you can have performance AND increased fuel mileage, it really makes it more worth it
This man speaks the truth. It's a night and day difference. Feels like my motor has woke up from a deep slumber lol.
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plus with gas prices that range differently, the benefits will only grow if gas prices grow into the summer.

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plus with gas prices that range differently, the benefits will only grow if gas prices grow into the summer.

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This man speaks the truck aswell lol
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ok i was just wondering what programmer you are using?? i think that the bama one is the only one i have seen for the 3.0 and i was just wondering if you were using this one or another i did not know about
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Jeez, now I really can't wait for mine, I believe mine shipped out yesterday.

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ok i was just wondering what programmer you are using?? i think that the bama one is the only one i have seen for the 3.0 and i was just wondering if you were using this one or another i did not know about
steve
He's running the Superchips power programmer. Can't beat it for $375.00
http://ttperformanceinc.com/cart/pro...roducts_id=181
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so wait your running the superchips (not SCT) programmer?? thats strange, the BamaChips programmer is the best on the market as far as im concerned. its custom tuned by Doug Studdard, who has helped develop tunes for whipple, explorer express, and soon granatelli, all for ranger engine applications. hes even been featured in a few magazines tuning a ranger. for $399 you cant beat THAT imo.
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You pitch the sales pitches as much as you please but either way, half of the guys on the Superchips team used to own Apten and now develop tuning for Superchips. I have seen both dyno sheets and Superchips proudly displays them on their website. http://www.superchips.com/prod_imgs/makepdf-496.pdf

But dont worry, I wont take much business just yet, since this is only available right out of the box for the 2004 model year but with my new dyno just installed at the dealership and now authorized by Superchips for custom tuning I will be doing full Superchips tuners custom done just as Doug does.
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as long as you dont confuse superchips with SCT. Brian Herron who worked at apten worked with doug when doug first started out, and when SCT was the custom tuning department of Superchips. Contrary to popular belief, SCT is NO LONGER affiliated with superchips, and are now developing their own hardware, like the Xcalibrator 2. The 1714 is essentially a nearly featureless canned tune loader, the only comparable device is their new FlashPaq.

Dont get me wrong, i dont doubt your abilities or your products one bit, but doug has been tuning rangers for a looooong time. Explorer Express flew him out to write the tune for their supercharger, Four Wheeler magazine brought him in to tune a feature ranger, Whipple asked him to make tunes for the 3.0 supercharger, and Joe Granatelli himself called to doug to write the tunes for their soon to be released 4.0 turbo setup. He just has more experience and is recognized as the best ranger tuner out there.

The superchips 1714 is a good programmer, believe me, but you just cant beat custom written tunes on a feature packed device for literally a few bucks more.
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The funny thing is, Superchips in Orlando used my old 2004 Ford Ranger as their "test vehicle" for the Superchips programmer. The dyno runs listed were for the 3.0L Ranger were using my old truck once I switched off of my SCT tuner. I have one of Doug's as well as one of Superchips programmers and I couldnt tell a difference to be completely honest. The Superchips does allow a lot of the same adjustments.

SCT and Superchips did divide a long time ago but their products will always be close to the same.
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Bob is doug sticking with the tuners I think at some point you were saying somehting about him switching up and moving back to a chip or something....im thinking baout gettin one soon from doug and you seem to have the inside connection
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their product may remain "close to the same" but then again, ANY tuning company products will remain close to the same. The key is the tuning thats on the device. And its not just differences that can be noticed on a dyno. As far as i can tell, the 1714 would be compared to an original Xcalibrator, which SCT no longer makes because the Xcalibrator 2 costs about the same and has many more features. But hey, at least we can agree that ANY chip is better than stock, and you would notice a vast improvement with either tuner

and im sorry if i gave you the impression that we were moving away from tuners, the fact of the matter is we dont like to sell the chips anymore because of common user installation problems that become detrimental to the PCM (dont worry, it happens to everyone, even I fried a PCM.....) We like to sell the tuners for the Rangers and other trucks, and they arent going anywhere!! There are rumors that there will soon be some sort of detatched display or dash mounted display to show real time digital "gauges" of the engines systems. But i dont know when or how much, so dont ask!!
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There are rumors that there will soon be some sort of detatched display or dash mounted display to show real time digital "gauges" of the engines systems. But i dont know when or how much, so dont ask!!
Now that would be BAD A$$! I would get one.
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Now that would be BAD A$$! I would get one.
I had one in my old truck... The Bully Dog outlook monitor that was sent to me by Bully Dog for prototype testing. I am now working very closely with bully dog to develop this product and we are almost ready for launch! Stay Tuned! Diesel trucks have been able to have portable guages forever and now with Hypertech having the Hyperpac which does the same function its now possible to have the #1 in diesel performance make one for your truck here soon.

Bully Dog and TT Performance, its a lovely thing.
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Man, I really need to get one of those. I heard 3.0's get the worst mileage too out of all the motors they put in the rangers.
I get worse than that. My average is low 15s.

I'm gunna get a programmer one of these days....
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