My new home made intake
I did a data log on my truck and sent it to Rogue to be evaluated. Everything looks fine. The numbers are right where they should be.
The tube is now cool to the touch and the epoxy paint set up nicely. Overall I'm pleased with the outcome. I'm still getting tons of P.M.s on the intake. It's really VERY simple to do. Just don't get in a hurry and it will turn out fine.
The tube is now cool to the touch and the epoxy paint set up nicely. Overall I'm pleased with the outcome. I'm still getting tons of P.M.s on the intake. It's really VERY simple to do. Just don't get in a hurry and it will turn out fine.
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From: Durham, NC
Originally Posted by Gay-briel
Guys, leave it civil
every person is entitled to their own opinion, but bashing other members is not allowed.
If a owner of a vehicle wants to mod it beyond stock, they have the right to make that decision. Changing an intake tube inst going to make the vehicle dangerous on the roadway, so give out your advice on the subject and leave it be
ScottG
every person is entitled to their own opinion, but bashing other members is not allowed.
If a owner of a vehicle wants to mod it beyond stock, they have the right to make that decision. Changing an intake tube inst going to make the vehicle dangerous on the roadway, so give out your advice on the subject and leave it be
ScottG
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From: Aiken,SC
Originally Posted by Takeda
Do you think Ford might have known what they were doing when they used the material in the OEM intake? What you have done is raised the temp of the air entering the engine, above the temp that the IAT sensor thinks the air temp is. Not very good for efficiency or performance! What you wrapped your intake tube with has a certain insulation "R factor", and with enough time, your intake tube is going to get as hot as it does without anything on it.
AND, if that wasn't enough, you have reduced the cooling effect from the air flow through it by reducing the velocity of the air flow! NICE!!
AND, if that wasn't enough, you have reduced the cooling effect from the air flow through it by reducing the velocity of the air flow! NICE!!
Originally Posted by vindex1963
I did a data log on my truck and sent it to Rogue to be evaluated. Everything looks fine. The numbers are right where they should be.
The tube is now cool to the touch and the epoxy paint set up nicely. Overall I'm pleased with the outcome. I'm still getting tons of P.M.s on the intake. It's really VERY simple to do. Just don't get in a hurry and it will turn out fine.
The tube is now cool to the touch and the epoxy paint set up nicely. Overall I'm pleased with the outcome. I'm still getting tons of P.M.s on the intake. It's really VERY simple to do. Just don't get in a hurry and it will turn out fine.
Fred from Rogue said they look good. The MAF, O2 sensors ect all send signals while you are driving and he said they look good. I was monitoring 10 different things that I sent to him. I looked at the data and it's a jumble of numbers to my untrained eye. I understood the spark, rpm and intake temps but the fuel curves, MAF signal and others are beyond me.
Being at stock levels...they shouldn't be.
I think it says the tune and my motor are working together the way they are supposed to.
There is an increase in power and throttle response for sure.
Being at stock levels...they shouldn't be.
I think it says the tune and my motor are working together the way they are supposed to.
There is an increase in power and throttle response for sure.
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Originally Posted by vindex1963
There is an increase in power and throttle response for sure.
Lets see some proof!
You are seeing a placebo affect!!! S.O.P. dynos are not accurate at all!!
I explained the vacuum test with the OEM intake to you!!! You WILL NOT
measure any vacuum at high RPM and WOT with the OEM intake, which shows the OEM intake will flow all the air the engine is pulling!!
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From: Sterling/ Amherst, MA
Originally Posted by Takeda
Lets see some proof!
You are seeing a placebo affect!!! S.O.P. dynos are not accurate at all!!
I explained the vacuum test with the OEM intake to you!!! You WILL NOT
measure any vacuum at high RPM and WOT with the OEM intake, which shows the OEM intake will flow all the air the engine is pulling!!
You are seeing a placebo affect!!! S.O.P. dynos are not accurate at all!!
I explained the vacuum test with the OEM intake to you!!! You WILL NOT
measure any vacuum at high RPM and WOT with the OEM intake, which shows the OEM intake will flow all the air the engine is pulling!!
you are always trying to prove people wrong. lets see wat the number say. keep you comments to yourself until then
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Originally Posted by jgibbs
dude, back off his sh*t!
you are always trying to prove people wrong. lets see wat the number say. keep you comments to yourself until then
you are always trying to prove people wrong. lets see wat the number say. keep you comments to yourself until then
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From: Sterling/ Amherst, MA
Originally Posted by Takeda
Let's see you disprove my vacuum test!!!!!!
the guy took his own time and money and tried to make a custom intake to see if it would help his performance and mileage. If he can get the numbers up to see if it helped at all, we will know if its worth it or not. Thats all im saying. I could care less about a vacuum test or SOP test
Originally Posted by winks
Thanks for clarifying. Sounds like you've made yourself an efficent mod while saving money, nice work.
I sure like it. The kick it gives at 3000 rpm made it worth it.
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Originally Posted by Z06
Why? 
this guy used to do the same crap on another "ford truck forum" i wont say what site. and he wound up getting the same response, he got ran off the forum.
i remember a thread about packing front wheel bearings, what a riot!
I picked up an Explorer air box over the weekend. V8 air box and guess what the air intake hole in the front is another 1/2 times the size of mine. The 3.0 factory intake must not be as over engineered and it seems.
I already opened it up to fit the box that connects the opening behind the headlight and the air box.
I already opened it up to fit the box that connects the opening behind the headlight and the air box.
For now I rigged it so that box is attached to the air box and it leaves about an 1/8 gap between the box and the sheet metal behind the headlight. Perfect for the air box to move around and get nothing but outside air. This weekend the fiberglass is coming out.
Originally Posted by Interceptor944
Vindex your avatar is tripping me out man lol....I dunno too much to drink maybe.....Oh this is the second thread I've seen that Takeda is making friends 
Cool Avatar huh.
I finished my intake this weekend. The photos on the bottom are what I did
and wanted to complete what I started. The air box silencer from before wasn't close to being finished so I bought an Explorer air box and finished it. I fiberglassed the silencer to the air box bottom. I opened the air box and the silencer as much as they would go. The fit from behind the headlight and the air box is perfect. No doubt it's only getting air from behind the headlight.
http://www.freewebs.com/arizonarider...madeintake.htm
and wanted to complete what I started. The air box silencer from before wasn't close to being finished so I bought an Explorer air box and finished it. I fiberglassed the silencer to the air box bottom. I opened the air box and the silencer as much as they would go. The fit from behind the headlight and the air box is perfect. No doubt it's only getting air from behind the headlight.
http://www.freewebs.com/arizonarider...madeintake.htm
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From: texas
Originally Posted by IR0NS1N
Problem is MOST power out of a basic "K&N CAI" is from the cone filter and the overall area in which air is sucked in. Im sorry I dont know the correct term for this. The tube from the air housing to the TB really isnt where the increase comes from. So if anyone out there thinks just adding a tube will give notticeable power, I doubt most people will be satisfied.
Originally Posted by Bmwlover540i
When I made my homemade CAI I noticed that in OEM tubing the air went from 2in. at the snorkel to the big box then through the 3in MAF area
