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Need help with removal of stock fan please!

Alright, I have read, re-read, and studied the posts about the fan removal. I got a jusnes modified efan the other day and I went to install it today with no luck!

I tried the "chisel method" and the "rental tool method" (which might I add, sucked, not one of the 6 i was given was the right one) and I tried the strap wrench method. Anyone got any idears? I might try to buy a stronger strap wrench (the one I have isn't too hot) but the pully keeps on slipping, I can't even get the shaft to budge.

Help please?
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you know you have a reverse thread ont he 3.0 right? keep the stock belt on and use the chisel method, you want to turn the fan nut like your tightening a regular bolt
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you know you have a reverse thread ont he 3.0 right? keep the stock belt on and use the chisel method, you want to turn the fan nut like your tightening a regular bolt
I've tried everything! It just won't work. I'm getting really frustrated, I really really really want the efan to be on my truck, but if I can't get the dang bolt off I may have to sell it

The pully just slips when I move it any, even if I put torque on the tensioner bolt (tighten the belt)

I tried everything...I'm lost. I may try the chisel again today, but I've about had it with trying to get it off. I can't seem to get it!

Thanks for the help though
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you need a fan removal tool. It holds onto the 4 bolts that the water pump pulley is held on with. While holding this you can use a wrench to loosen the pulley. With the 3.0 you have to remove the 4 bolts holding the water pump pulley on, slide the pulley forward, then reinstall the bolts. This is necessary because the bolts are recessed into the pulley.

If you have another means to hold the pulley still it will work, but this is the tool designed to do it. Some parts stores will rent one to you for nothing or you can pay about $15 for it. A "Ford Removal" will work to hold the water pump bolts, but the actual fan wrench will be the wrong size. Luckily that is a common size for a wrench. There may be room to use a cresent wrench in there also, I don't remember. It is reverse thread. Once it is "loose" it will freely spin. All you have to do is get it loose.

Here's a quick how to I did to illustrate this. I need to correct it to reflect the water pump pulley needing to be slid forward:
http://underdog-performance.com/id102.html
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You will want to leave the belt on to loosen the 4 10mm bolts on the water pump pulley. it doesn't have much torque on the bolts and the belt should be adequate.
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When I took the fan off of a 2001 4.0 the clutch nut removal kit I was loaned from autozone did not fit either. I ended up using a really big fixed wrench on the clutch nut and managed to make one of the tools in the kit work for holding the pulley in place even though it didn't fit correctly.
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I've never had the wrench not fit the pulley bolts although the used rental ones can be worn out a little. The fan clutch is a different size between the 3.0 and 4.0. Everyone I had would fit the 4.0 but not the 3.0. I am pretty sure on a 3.0 that there's room for a large crescent wrench to fit in there. - one bump with a hammer and it's loose. It's amazingly easy with the right tools.
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ahhh, I did not know that you have to losen the pulley bolts and slide it forward! No one told me that little detail!!!

All the swearing, throwing tools (I broke my headlight by accident too), etc...could have been avoided if I woulda just read!!!

I'm going to try it again tommorow or monday...I was getting ready to sell my e-fan too!!!

Alright, I'm going to try that, I have the fan pulley tool, and I have a wrench that fits, it's actually a cresent.

Thanks!!!!
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your welcome. Sorry for all the frustrations you are going through. Sounds like your almost there. You have the wiring diagram and have that portion figured out?
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your welcome. Sorry for all the frustrations you are going through. Sounds like your almost there. You have the wiring diagram and have that portion figured out?
Yes sir, wiring is no biggie for me. I'm pretty good with wiring and such.

The problem was getting the fan shaft off, but now I know how to do it, and I have the proper tools. I will attack it on monday or wednesday. Shouldn't be hard now that I know how to do it.

Just fix that how to...please? Either that or I will make one just for 3.0's...i'll give ya credit of course though

It woulda made it A LOT easier had I have known, I broke my headlight by accident from doing the wrong manuver to take my fan off. It's ok though, it's all worth it in the end!!!
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That extra info has been added. The process is not cut and dry so you may still have to think your way through a problem. One example is getting the 4 bolts off the pulley. You are gonna have to figure out how to keep the pulley from spinning while you remove the bolts. I was able to Loosen all 4 bolts first (before removing them) while the belt was still attached. This may or may not work everytime. Somehow you will need to hold the pulley. If the belt motor tries to spin, you should be able to put a wrench on the alt pulley to hold it. If it still spins you may be able to hold onto the fan shaft with the wrench. Not sure how much working room you'll have by holding the fan.
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Ok, my turn. I've got the 4 10MM screws off....the pully didn't turn at all while doing it which is good, but I can't get the damn pully off. It looks pretty rusted behind there.

I sprayed it with WD-40 and I tried hammering it with a ball peen hammer. Its still stuck on there like a bastard. I've rotated the pully using my crescent wrench so I can bang evenly around the pully to loosen it...nada.

Any thoughts?
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The inner hole of the water pump pulley is setting in a piece of metal on the pump. The area can rust together. If you can pry it away from the block that might help. Even a 1/16" movement should be enough.
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I've tried that with screwdrivers but its really hard to get the right angle and levarage. Maybe I'll try a small crowbar or something. I'll see what I have downstairs that might work.
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Call this the tuff time thread. I've done the 3.0 a half a dozen times at least.
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ha, i wish you were down here, I could help ya, mine did the same thing

a good ole wack with the hammer did the trick for me!!!
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Guess I'll grow a set and hit it harder. :) Tomorrow
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pb blaster if its rusted that bad.... stuff eats it away like crazy...

im not looking forward to taking mine off now when i get my fan lol....
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The problem is...its in a really hard to reach spot. You don't want to get that PB Blaster on anything else in the engine bay.

Even the wd-40 was spraying around and hitting other parts close by.

Yours might not be as rusted or struck like mine is. Lets hope :) heh
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lol 3 years older and ive got salt too ....
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lol 3 years older and ive got salt too ....
haha, didn't think of that. Be sure you post your struggles if you do encounter them
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I had quite a few probs (wayne knows about it)

1. not knowing how to properly use the "fan removal tool" (you have to unscrew the bolts
2. getting the pulley loose (wd and a hammer (and also a chisel) worked like a charm)
3. belt size (i finally got the right one...thanks wayne!!!)


The wiring was a PITA because I installed a switch...but other than that, the wiring is easy.

Just tap off of you pruple wire on your A/C in your cab and tap off your radio for ACC wire...tahts what I did.

if you have any questions, i've been there done that (wayne has too) so, just pm me or something...i can answer most questions
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3. belt size (i finally got the right one...thanks wayne!!!)

Uhhhh...whats this about belt size? This is news to me.
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Uhhhh...whats this about belt size? This is news to me.
It was a completely different application. Nothing to do with your deal.
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k sweet, that scared me too since i spent 50$ on a gatorback a month ago...
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