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NEW "Cyclone" 3.5L V6 and Six-speed Automatic!!!

Hopefully this isnt a repost, i did a quick search and didnt see anything, but in case this is new to you guys Ford just came out with a new engine for the EDGE. Its a very nice 3.5L v6 with 250hp and 240 ft/lb!!! Finally an engine worth buying. And it gets 20mpg...which is not bad at all! And they have also made it with a 6 speed auto tranny!

It's an all new design sporting an alluminum block and heads, and it has the exact height and width dimensions as the current 3.0...which means if youve got the 3.slow like me you can do an easy swap.

I am definetely considering buying this for my truck next year.

heres a good article with pics...they mention that the engine will have supercharger potential as well:)

http://www.autoblog.com/2005/11/09/b...and-six-speed/

EDIT: from wikipedia..."Official SAE certified engine output is 265 hp (198 kW) and 250 ftlbf (339 Nm) on 87 octane gas, but could reach 300 hp (224 kW) once planned features like gasoline direct injection are added."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Cyclone_engine

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looks sweet but isnt the edge now a wagon or somthing?
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looks sweet but isnt the edge now a wagon or somthing?
idno but im pretty sure they meant the truck...either way its the same size as the 3.0...so it can work
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yeah it's the new crossover SUV.. that engine wont just drop into a ranger at all, because it's a derivative of the Duratec 3.0L (DOHC) V6, not to be confused with the Vulcan 3.0L (OHV) V6. The last I heard, this was going into the Ford Five Hundred as well?
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I bet you could pull it off.. But in the pics it looks to be more fwd oreanted
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its a new edge suv....sorry to get your hopes down
they were also looking at using in the mustang
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Using it in the stang is a very good idea IMO.. im sorry but 210hp out of a 4.0L SOHC V6 is kinda pathetic..and it gets crappy mileage too! 'bout time they get something decent in there!
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The Ranger Edge has been out of production since 2005 (renamed the Sport for 06~07). The new Edge is a crossover SUV, completely unrelated to Rangers.
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its a new edge suv....sorry to get your hopes down
they were also looking at using in the mustang
well even if they meant the new edge suv...im pretty sure it will fit, seeing as people are able to cram larger v8's in their rangers

but this appeals to me because its probably cheaper than a v8 and it supplies almost as much HP as im looking for...if what they say about a supercharger is right...you could be looking at 320+ hp more or less...whatever, either way...thats pretty much double what i have now and gets the same mpg
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well even if they meant the new edge suv...im pretty sure it will fit, seeing as people are able to cram larger v8's in their rangers

but this appeals to me because its probably cheaper than a v8 and it supplies almost as much HP as im looking for...if what they say about a supercharger is right...you could be looking at 320+ hp more or less...whatever, either way...thats pretty much double what i have now and gets the same mpg
oh ya, i bet it would.
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A carbed V8 would be a much easier swap than one of those motors. You're looking at ALOT of wiring on top of fabricating new motor mounts, transmission cross members, etc. etc. And if the EDGE SUV is FWD like I think, then it probably has a 6 speed transaxle instead of a transmission in the normal sense of the word. You'd have to source yourself a different transmission that would bolt to the engine (or make an adapter) and then go from there.

Can it be done? Sure, of course it can. I don't think it will be as easy as you're anticipating though. I'd still think stuffing a 302 into your truck would be easier.

But hey, I could be totally wrong, and I'd love to see you prove me so
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you could be right, this might not be the answer to my problems, but it doesnt come out for a whole year, so we will just have to wait and see

the good news is, Ford is actually making better engines, perhpas they will make something special for the "sport" ranger
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lol now we can whoop 4.0s... BTW if the bring that over to the Ranger I'm doing a trade in
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Looks cool. But they say it gets 20 mpg they didnt say what in. 20mpg in a mustang and a 4x4 ranger would be a pretty big difference.
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FYI.. they are dropping the 4.0L SOHC motor. dads dept has been working on a new motor going in the ranger

i haven't asked him a lot of questions

because he might taking the buy out

but i *beleave* that is the motor been a little while since i heard this tho.. almost like 95% positive..

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FYI.. they are dropping the 4.0L SOHC motor. dads dept has been working on a new motor going in the ranger i haven't asked him a lot of questions do to him might taking the buy out but i *beleave* that is the motor been a little while since i heard this tho.. almost like 95% positive..

what now? use periods man!
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I think the main problem would be adapting an engine designed for transverse transaxle mounting to a transmission for the Ranger. You won't be able to use a 6 speed FWD transaxle in your truck, and there may be no available transmissions or adapators that can make that engine work. This is what I would be concerned about.

Also, I think it's a BAD idea to try to get an engine that is so new in design. It's not been proven long term and there is a high risk in getting such a new powerplant and using it in an application it was not designed for.

Figure if you get a brand new one somehow, you would have a real hard time with any "warranty" claim. There will be virtually no support available for this engine aftermarket or in the enthusiast community for some time.
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you could be right, this might not be the answer to my problems, but it doesnt come out for a whole year, so we will just have to wait and see
your originally quoted post was over a year old
this engine and tranmission is already in Ford brand vehicles
besides the fact that it would be way too expensive to retrofit this set up into a Ranger it is not the proper platform
much better things can be done with time and less money to upgrade a Ranger engine compartment
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griggs nailed the problems with a retrofit. As for the Edge, this will most likely be the vehicle we replace the Mercury Mariner with. That 265 HP gets the 1/4 mile times under 16 seconds. I think the tests showed a 15.8. That is not shabby at all considering most are mid 16 and up.
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ford def needs to come out with a new v6, hell even chevy with there 5 cylinder is putting out more power and prob better mpg too, dont even want to bring up the 4.0 that nissan and toyota have........
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those 6 speed automatics are pretty nice btw.. I recently drove a fusion with the 3.0L/6 speed auto, it was VERY responsive for a Ford automatic and shifted when I wanted it to..
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well this would bring the ranger back up to par with all the other light trucks HP... SWEET!!!
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If it is cheap and able to covert to the ranger then i am def going to do it.
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def not going to be cheap, mine as well by a new truck or do a 5.0 swap like previously stated.......
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my parent's mazda minivan w' the duratec 3.0 V6 has more sac, speed, etc.

why not put that in the ranger? is the torque and application not appropriate?
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