Rough Idling, low power (oh boy!)
Rough Idling, low power (oh boy!)
Hello, new user here to Ranger Forums.
Have a 2002 (made in 2001) XL Ranger 3.0 V6, automatic, 140,000 miles. It's bone stock save for the replacement K&H Air Filter that I swapped out when I was doing detailing work and hauling around a tank of water (and I already know I overspent for something I really didn't need).
It's been regularly maintained and cleaned throughout it's life and has never sputtered out or stalled on me ever. Had the transmission fluid changed out over a year and a half ago and was given a very clean bill of health overall. Have only had minor problems such as inconvenient bulb burnouts (which I have yet to replace behind the dash) and squeaks here and there.
Anyways, I certainly can't say that it hasn't been a reliable vehicle so far but when things start falling apart, they seem to all happen at one time. The biggest issue that I have (and the one that I can afford to deal with on a $2500 vehicle) is the rough idling/operation and low power. It also boggs down on the and shutters violently on the highway when over 3000rpms and at around 85mph on the gauge. That may just be the governor kicking in but it no doubt has lower top speed than it did a few years ago. I've been reading up on it and have my suspicions over bad ignition coils, crummy/clogged throttle body, bad spark plugs - all things that I will not be able to know for sure unless I physically investigate further.
I have only done minor things to my truck such as replace the oil, change out fuses, bulbs, install a third middle light for use on a topper and install my stereo system and speakers. I would like to able to attempt to work on whatever may be troubling the car itself at the moment, but have not attempted previously - at least not on my own.
I may have a friend or two that can help me but it would take weeks of planning to set that in order.
So my biggest question is this - Is this something that I would be able to attempt on my own/with help of a friend? Or is this better left to the (overpriced) experts?
Can take pics if it helps out.
Have a 2002 (made in 2001) XL Ranger 3.0 V6, automatic, 140,000 miles. It's bone stock save for the replacement K&H Air Filter that I swapped out when I was doing detailing work and hauling around a tank of water (and I already know I overspent for something I really didn't need).
It's been regularly maintained and cleaned throughout it's life and has never sputtered out or stalled on me ever. Had the transmission fluid changed out over a year and a half ago and was given a very clean bill of health overall. Have only had minor problems such as inconvenient bulb burnouts (which I have yet to replace behind the dash) and squeaks here and there.
Anyways, I certainly can't say that it hasn't been a reliable vehicle so far but when things start falling apart, they seem to all happen at one time. The biggest issue that I have (and the one that I can afford to deal with on a $2500 vehicle) is the rough idling/operation and low power. It also boggs down on the and shutters violently on the highway when over 3000rpms and at around 85mph on the gauge. That may just be the governor kicking in but it no doubt has lower top speed than it did a few years ago. I've been reading up on it and have my suspicions over bad ignition coils, crummy/clogged throttle body, bad spark plugs - all things that I will not be able to know for sure unless I physically investigate further.

I have only done minor things to my truck such as replace the oil, change out fuses, bulbs, install a third middle light for use on a topper and install my stereo system and speakers. I would like to able to attempt to work on whatever may be troubling the car itself at the moment, but have not attempted previously - at least not on my own.
I may have a friend or two that can help me but it would take weeks of planning to set that in order.
So my biggest question is this - Is this something that I would be able to attempt on my own/with help of a friend? Or is this better left to the (overpriced) experts?

Can take pics if it helps out.
Okay, so I splurged (all $6 worth!!!) on some MAF cleaner and had at it with some Q-Tips and paper towels. Took a bit of sweat to get it all out of there but needless to say I did.
I let it dry for about 45min and it seemed bone dry (the spray certainly works as advertised). It did make a marked improvement in overall stability - idle is better, engine runs noticeably quieter, increase in power (I would say about 10-20% more throttle @ all rpms) and the car does not seem to shake all that much once it gets going at normal speeds including highway speeds. The car still shakes more than it normally should which leads me to believe that it still hasn't exactly pinpointed the problem but it does reassure my feelings of highway driving again without feeling like it will stall at any moment. One of the easiest and
I talked to a couple of friends and they unanimously agree that it is highly unlikely that the spark plugs are the culprit as they are only 8000 miles old at this point. The ones that were installed before are rated 100,000+ miles, but I suppose there could be a lemon. It's just $40 to confirm lemon/not...
I still have my finger pointed at the ignition coil which is only about $40 to get a new one and replace (which is 90% of the hassle) but a buddy and I could handle that in an hour or so. Do I proceed with this or is there something else I'm not catching?
I let it dry for about 45min and it seemed bone dry (the spray certainly works as advertised). It did make a marked improvement in overall stability - idle is better, engine runs noticeably quieter, increase in power (I would say about 10-20% more throttle @ all rpms) and the car does not seem to shake all that much once it gets going at normal speeds including highway speeds. The car still shakes more than it normally should which leads me to believe that it still hasn't exactly pinpointed the problem but it does reassure my feelings of highway driving again without feeling like it will stall at any moment. One of the easiest and
I talked to a couple of friends and they unanimously agree that it is highly unlikely that the spark plugs are the culprit as they are only 8000 miles old at this point. The ones that were installed before are rated 100,000+ miles, but I suppose there could be a lemon. It's just $40 to confirm lemon/not...
I still have my finger pointed at the ignition coil which is only about $40 to get a new one and replace (which is 90% of the hassle) but a buddy and I could handle that in an hour or so. Do I proceed with this or is there something else I'm not catching?
You should also try cleaning the throttle body. It's pretty easy to clean. First get some Throttle Body cleaner. Next disconnect the battery. Now remove the hose clamp that holds the intake to the TB. Also remove any other shield around it(I have a 98 and there is a bit of a shield). Next, wiggle the TB loose, pull it away gently and have a look inside. Yours is probably quite carbonned up inside as mine was. Put a towel around it and start spraying. I had to use an old (clean) paint brush to loosen the carbon. I didn't disconnect the wires or cruise cables from the TB assembly either - just was careful not to break anything off.
After the cleaning - the idle speed dropped to a bit below 1000 rpm from about 1350.
This was a relatively easy job and worth it (IMO)
After the cleaning - the idle speed dropped to a bit below 1000 rpm from about 1350.
This was a relatively easy job and worth it (IMO)
You should also try cleaning the throttle body. It's pretty easy to clean. First get some Throttle Body cleaner. Next disconnect the battery. Now remove the hose clamp that holds the intake to the TB. Also remove any other shield around it(I have a 98 and there is a bit of a shield). Next, wiggle the TB loose, pull it away gently and have a look inside. Yours is probably quite carbonned up inside as mine was. Put a towel around it and start spraying. I had to use an old (clean) paint brush to loosen the carbon. I didn't disconnect the wires or cruise cables from the TB assembly either - just was careful not to break anything off.
After the cleaning - the idle speed dropped to a bit below 1000 rpm from about 1350.
This was a relatively easy job and worth it (IMO)
After the cleaning - the idle speed dropped to a bit below 1000 rpm from about 1350.
This was a relatively easy job and worth it (IMO)
Perhaps they are the same. I thought the MAF would be a sensor that measures air flow - I have one at the entrance of the air tube very near the filter housing (at least I thought this was the MAF) and the throttle body was the butterfly valve assembly very near the intake manifold. I noticed in the Parts Store that they had MAF sensor cleaner as well as Throttle body cleaner.
In any event - you cleaned the 'thingy" that I was talking about - so all is good.
In any event - you cleaned the 'thingy" that I was talking about - so all is good.
well i would at least pull every plug and check before you get new ones, you'll know a bad plug when you see it, possible that one of the boots is not making a good connection, so just take them off one at a time and put them back on and hear for the click, ignition coils go bad they go bad as in they don't work at all, so they don't really wear out and act up.
Just completed a complete flush on my radiator, can't say for sure how it is affecting the overall shaking issue but I do notice yet another decrease in engine noise.
Wasn't too hard using this guide: https://www.ranger-forums.com/showthread.php?p=1554834
Did everything that was demonstrated and needless to say I now have four 5 gallon buckets and a large cooler's worth of exo-coolant gunk that was previously terrorizing my coolant system. The coolant meter never did much of anything yet I can't help but feel that it has dipped somewhat as a result of all of this.
Still monitoring the coolant levels and topping off every couple of minutes but the shaking is still present. Haven't checked the spark plugs as of yet...
Wasn't too hard using this guide: https://www.ranger-forums.com/showthread.php?p=1554834
Did everything that was demonstrated and needless to say I now have four 5 gallon buckets and a large cooler's worth of exo-coolant gunk that was previously terrorizing my coolant system. The coolant meter never did much of anything yet I can't help but feel that it has dipped somewhat as a result of all of this.
Still monitoring the coolant levels and topping off every couple of minutes but the shaking is still present. Haven't checked the spark plugs as of yet...
Also had some diagnosis as the auto store and had some error codes pop up:
P0455
P0457
P0301
P0708
P0303
301 and 303 are cylinder missfires. Besides the 708 (which is a transmission range sensor) all the signs seem to indicate vapor leaks and bad EVAP (fuel cap light is on but fuel cap is fine and tight) and consequently the 457 code indicates possible bad fuel filter, which I believe would be the culprit here.
Those are a bit harder to work on and replace it seems...
P0455
P0457
P0301
P0708
P0303
301 and 303 are cylinder missfires. Besides the 708 (which is a transmission range sensor) all the signs seem to indicate vapor leaks and bad EVAP (fuel cap light is on but fuel cap is fine and tight) and consequently the 457 code indicates possible bad fuel filter, which I believe would be the culprit here.
Those are a bit harder to work on and replace it seems...
My bad, I don't mean fuel filter - I meant fuel injector; the more complicated peice of equipment that's hooked up to the fuel lines and EVAP system that most likely explains the reason for the fuel cap indicator light.
I'm not looking forward to spraying gasoline everywhere after I just flushed my radiator fluids...
I'm not looking forward to spraying gasoline everywhere after I just flushed my radiator fluids...
yeah i would check them before i would do that, i know theres a way to do so i'm just not sure on it, but you can research it, sometimes gas caps go bad so maybe a new gas cap wouldn't hurt to try, check the plugs and check for current i the wire with a timing light
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