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Quartersawn 11-30-2019 08:05 PM

Significant frame rust NEW Ranger
 
Just got my Ranger home from the dealer yeaterday. Took a better look at the underside and this is what I find. 2019, 188 miles when it left the lot. Anyone have a similar experience? Headed in to throw a man sized hissy fit tomorrow.

I did not even think to look underneath. This was my first ever new vehicle, I assumed it would be fine.

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Jeff R 1 11-30-2019 09:05 PM

Holly crap !
Not enough paint and reclaimed Chinese steel ! ?
They must have had it sitting near salt water...?
Even the aluminum is oxidized too.

J Stanley 12-01-2019 12:03 AM

Pic #1 looks like a year plus old vehicle.

I'll have to get under mine and look, I have 7500 snow-belt miles on it now.

Quartersawn 12-01-2019 04:30 AM


Originally Posted by J Stanley (Post 2162646)
Pic #1 looks like a year plus old vehicle.

I'll have to get under mine and look, I have 7500 snow-belt miles on it now.

I have had a few vehicles down here in FL. This type of rust is pretty uncommon. Maybe someone who lives less than a mike from the beach, but this thing had to have been driven on salt and not sprayed down.

Any advice for when I go into the dealer?

2011Supercab 12-01-2019 05:07 AM

Almost looks like someone took it for a test drive on the beach, and didn't rinse it off afterwards.

Jeff R 1 12-01-2019 11:02 AM

Just from the frame rail in the first photo, it looks like it was rusted already and then painted over top of the rust, and now the rust is coming through.
There's something going on here then just simple rust, even with the thin factory paint on the frame, there should be NO rust showing up this soon a new vehicle _ no matter where it was driven or stored on the planet.

Quartersawn 12-01-2019 11:27 AM

Update:

I took the truck back to the dealer and they gave me no issues. Like at all. I was fully prepared to fight tooth and nail to get a new vehicle. The sales manager just asked that I give him a dew days to find the exact specs I want.... I had torches lit for a riot and everything....

Just an FYI for anyone who doesn't have hands on experience with the 2019. I went under 4 or 5 19s that they had on the lot and they were all clean as a whistle. I woukd have eaten off the underside... Leave it to me to find a lemon.

Jeff R 1 12-01-2019 12:58 PM

That's great to hear the dealer looked after you, but I would like to know how a new truck has 5 to 10 years of rust on the underside like that.

jkl2455 12-01-2019 11:22 PM

I gotta agree with 2011 SuperCab on this one, it does look like someone took it for a joyride on a beach somewhere then parked it.
The inner fender splash shields are caked with salt, before I take delivery of my 2020 SuperCab in Feb.2020, I am going to make it a point to look as well. If it looks anything like yours I'll refuse delivery.
Bummers that this should happen to you on your first new car purchase, at least the dealer was responsive.

Quartersawn 12-02-2019 08:13 AM

I will take pics of the new one when it arrives to give everyone a side by side. I guess I will stick around on the forums for a bit. Seems like a cool community. I'll put up a build thread for my audio system when I get around to it.

Olympus1 03-05-2020 07:29 AM

Quartersawn,
I see you are in Palm Bay. Did you buy it in that town?
I know I have had great service from Palm Bay Ford as well.
Regards,
Olympus1

plan b 03-21-2020 12:24 PM

These trucks are built in MI at michigan assembly. Not sure if all of you are aware but we use salt to melt the snow and ice on the roads. I think its worse than driving on the beach. The Ranger frames are shipped by rail. It's a bummer and i'd be pissed too. You should see my 2008 ranger.....runs great but rusting out bad. 170,000 miles on the factory clutch. I'm going to order a ranger later this year. Not sure if i feel like waiting for the Bronco. I work at MAP where we build the ranger and the forthcoming Bronco.

Scrambler82 03-21-2020 01:13 PM

Quartersawn,

How did this turn out ?

Did Ford replace the truck ?

Ltr

Jeff R 1 03-21-2020 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by Scrambler82 (Post 2168359)
Quartersawn,

How did this turn out ?

Did Ford replace the truck ?

Ltr

See post #7

Scrambler82 03-21-2020 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by Jeff R 1 (Post 2168370)
See post #7

Thank you, I read it before and again this time to see if I missed anything.

You reply was a little vague about what finally happened, you said the dealer was willing to do what was necessary... Did they ?

Did you get a new truck ?

Pictures ?

SanDiegoRanger 09-04-2020 04:01 PM

Thank you for posting this! I have similar issues with my new 2019 Ranger with 4300 miles. I crawled under it for the first time just yesterday:

https://sandiegophotography.info/p256196611


J Stanley 09-04-2020 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by SanDiegoRanger (Post 2177585)
Thank you for posting this! I have similar issues with my new 2019 Ranger with 4300 miles. I crawled under it for the first time just yesterday:

h............

Well I got a few words for you, just a couple.

San Diego...... and the OCEAN right there. Got salt in it, that does, you get a salt spray test every day of the year, know it, or not.

That does not seem horrible for a truck from the prior model year, close to the ocean. (I bought mine almost a year ago, so yours may have sat in the wind-borne ocean salt "plume" for a considerable time.)

I'd water spray the bottom, twice, let it dry, spray with a heavy oil, and drive a dusty road. Do the oil and road twice, and there will be no further rusting.

That's nice red -orange rust, not the black stuff. The black rust is what goes right through a frame. Red rust is stoppable.

Jeff R 1 09-04-2020 07:06 PM

I would get the oil leak fixed under warranty !
It's not an easy job to fix the oil leak either, assuming that it's coming from the timing chain cover.
You have to remove the front crank pulley to get the cover off and doing that upsets the valve timing because there are no woodruff keys on the crank or on the cam shafts.
It has to be done meticulously or the valve timing can be thrown out where it won't run or the worst case scenario, the valves will be bent.
Just to fix an oil leak that shouldn't be happening.

The problem with the frames (on any vehicle) is the paint is just an air dried lacquer, it doesn't even have a hardener in it.
It's not primed and it's on there pretty thin, it's just to protect the frame while it's sitting around waiting to built into a truck.

J Stanley 09-04-2020 09:37 PM

Yes, the oil leak is obviously a warranty issue, open and shut case on that. Did the dealer refuse to deal with that as well?

There is no law that says you have to go to the dealer that sold you the truck, ANY dealer gets the same warranty work payment, so any dealer can and should agree to do that work on a warranty issue, if you don't like the selling dealer.

I have noticed that often the dealer that is good at sales is NOT the one good at repairs. No idea why that is so, but for American made vehicles that seems to be the case.

I drove imported vehicles for many years (Saab and Volvo). Both had definite maintenance schedules set up, at such and so mileage, do these things, and the dealers were clear about it, no nonsense. If you did them, you had no trouble. When I bought the S10, my first US made vehicle, I was shocked.... when I went in for regular maintenance on the truck, there WAS NO regular maintenance schedule..... They had a padded-out "maintenance package" or a high price, that had things that did not even apply (I had a stick, and their only package was for automatic), and other items were essentially "lubricating the muffler bearings" type stuff. American vehicle buyers basically get the shaft.

I got nowhere with them, and they were hard to get to, so I went to a different dealer, who got me the low-down on what maintenance was actually needed. But THAT dealer had the worst sales people. Go figure.

Jeff R 1 09-04-2020 11:41 PM

How's your transmission doing ?

https://www.ranger-forums.com/2019-f...ission-162195/

Cuffy1 02-15-2021 07:17 AM

Rusting sub frame
 

Originally Posted by Quartersawn (Post 2162650)
I have had a few vehicles down here in FL. This type of rust is pretty uncommon. Maybe someone who lives less than a mike from the beach, but this thing had to have been driven on salt and not sprayed down.

Any advice for when I go into the dealer?

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Hi guys anybody else having the same trouble? May 2019 8000 miles this cannot be normal!!! Waiting to hear back from Ford.
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xstranger 03-29-2021 11:57 AM

I have the same problem, 2019 wildtrak, did you took the car back to the dealer? Any news?


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