Significant frame rust NEW Ranger
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Significant frame rust NEW Ranger
Just got my Ranger home from the dealer yeaterday. Took a better look at the underside and this is what I find. 2019, 188 miles when it left the lot. Anyone have a similar experience? Headed in to throw a man sized hissy fit tomorrow.
I did not even think to look underneath. This was my first ever new vehicle, I assumed it would be fine.
I did not even think to look underneath. This was my first ever new vehicle, I assumed it would be fine.
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Any advice for when I go into the dealer?
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Just from the frame rail in the first photo, it looks like it was rusted already and then painted over top of the rust, and now the rust is coming through.
There's something going on here then just simple rust, even with the thin factory paint on the frame, there should be NO rust showing up this soon a new vehicle _ no matter where it was driven or stored on the planet.
There's something going on here then just simple rust, even with the thin factory paint on the frame, there should be NO rust showing up this soon a new vehicle _ no matter where it was driven or stored on the planet.
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Update:
I took the truck back to the dealer and they gave me no issues. Like at all. I was fully prepared to fight tooth and nail to get a new vehicle. The sales manager just asked that I give him a dew days to find the exact specs I want.... I had torches lit for a riot and everything....
Just an FYI for anyone who doesn't have hands on experience with the 2019. I went under 4 or 5 19s that they had on the lot and they were all clean as a whistle. I woukd have eaten off the underside... Leave it to me to find a lemon.
I took the truck back to the dealer and they gave me no issues. Like at all. I was fully prepared to fight tooth and nail to get a new vehicle. The sales manager just asked that I give him a dew days to find the exact specs I want.... I had torches lit for a riot and everything....
Just an FYI for anyone who doesn't have hands on experience with the 2019. I went under 4 or 5 19s that they had on the lot and they were all clean as a whistle. I woukd have eaten off the underside... Leave it to me to find a lemon.
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SanDiegoRanger (09-04-2020)
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I gotta agree with 2011 SuperCab on this one, it does look like someone took it for a joyride on a beach somewhere then parked it.
The inner fender splash shields are caked with salt, before I take delivery of my 2020 SuperCab in Feb.2020, I am going to make it a point to look as well. If it looks anything like yours I'll refuse delivery.
Bummers that this should happen to you on your first new car purchase, at least the dealer was responsive.
The inner fender splash shields are caked with salt, before I take delivery of my 2020 SuperCab in Feb.2020, I am going to make it a point to look as well. If it looks anything like yours I'll refuse delivery.
Bummers that this should happen to you on your first new car purchase, at least the dealer was responsive.
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SanDiegoRanger (09-04-2020)
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These trucks are built in MI at michigan assembly. Not sure if all of you are aware but we use salt to melt the snow and ice on the roads. I think its worse than driving on the beach. The Ranger frames are shipped by rail. It's a bummer and i'd be pissed too. You should see my 2008 ranger.....runs great but rusting out bad. 170,000 miles on the factory clutch. I'm going to order a ranger later this year. Not sure if i feel like waiting for the Bronco. I work at MAP where we build the ranger and the forthcoming Bronco.
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Thank you for posting this! I have similar issues with my new 2019 Ranger with 4300 miles. I crawled under it for the first time just yesterday:
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Thank you for posting this! I have similar issues with my new 2019 Ranger with 4300 miles. I crawled under it for the first time just yesterday:
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San Diego...... and the OCEAN right there. Got salt in it, that does, you get a salt spray test every day of the year, know it, or not.
That does not seem horrible for a truck from the prior model year, close to the ocean. (I bought mine almost a year ago, so yours may have sat in the wind-borne ocean salt "plume" for a considerable time.)
I'd water spray the bottom, twice, let it dry, spray with a heavy oil, and drive a dusty road. Do the oil and road twice, and there will be no further rusting.
That's nice red -orange rust, not the black stuff. The black rust is what goes right through a frame. Red rust is stoppable.
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I would get the oil leak fixed under warranty !
It's not an easy job to fix the oil leak either, assuming that it's coming from the timing chain cover.
You have to remove the front crank pulley to get the cover off and doing that upsets the valve timing because there are no woodruff keys on the crank or on the cam shafts.
It has to be done meticulously or the valve timing can be thrown out where it won't run or the worst case scenario, the valves will be bent.
Just to fix an oil leak that shouldn't be happening.
The problem with the frames (on any vehicle) is the paint is just an air dried lacquer, it doesn't even have a hardener in it.
It's not primed and it's on there pretty thin, it's just to protect the frame while it's sitting around waiting to built into a truck.
It's not an easy job to fix the oil leak either, assuming that it's coming from the timing chain cover.
You have to remove the front crank pulley to get the cover off and doing that upsets the valve timing because there are no woodruff keys on the crank or on the cam shafts.
It has to be done meticulously or the valve timing can be thrown out where it won't run or the worst case scenario, the valves will be bent.
Just to fix an oil leak that shouldn't be happening.
The problem with the frames (on any vehicle) is the paint is just an air dried lacquer, it doesn't even have a hardener in it.
It's not primed and it's on there pretty thin, it's just to protect the frame while it's sitting around waiting to built into a truck.
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Yes, the oil leak is obviously a warranty issue, open and shut case on that. Did the dealer refuse to deal with that as well?
There is no law that says you have to go to the dealer that sold you the truck, ANY dealer gets the same warranty work payment, so any dealer can and should agree to do that work on a warranty issue, if you don't like the selling dealer.
I have noticed that often the dealer that is good at sales is NOT the one good at repairs. No idea why that is so, but for American made vehicles that seems to be the case.
I drove imported vehicles for many years (Saab and Volvo). Both had definite maintenance schedules set up, at such and so mileage, do these things, and the dealers were clear about it, no nonsense. If you did them, you had no trouble. When I bought the S10, my first US made vehicle, I was shocked.... when I went in for regular maintenance on the truck, there WAS NO regular maintenance schedule..... They had a padded-out "maintenance package" or a high price, that had things that did not even apply (I had a stick, and their only package was for automatic), and other items were essentially "lubricating the muffler bearings" type stuff. American vehicle buyers basically get the shaft.
I got nowhere with them, and they were hard to get to, so I went to a different dealer, who got me the low-down on what maintenance was actually needed. But THAT dealer had the worst sales people. Go figure.
There is no law that says you have to go to the dealer that sold you the truck, ANY dealer gets the same warranty work payment, so any dealer can and should agree to do that work on a warranty issue, if you don't like the selling dealer.
I have noticed that often the dealer that is good at sales is NOT the one good at repairs. No idea why that is so, but for American made vehicles that seems to be the case.
I drove imported vehicles for many years (Saab and Volvo). Both had definite maintenance schedules set up, at such and so mileage, do these things, and the dealers were clear about it, no nonsense. If you did them, you had no trouble. When I bought the S10, my first US made vehicle, I was shocked.... when I went in for regular maintenance on the truck, there WAS NO regular maintenance schedule..... They had a padded-out "maintenance package" or a high price, that had things that did not even apply (I had a stick, and their only package was for automatic), and other items were essentially "lubricating the muffler bearings" type stuff. American vehicle buyers basically get the shaft.
I got nowhere with them, and they were hard to get to, so I went to a different dealer, who got me the low-down on what maintenance was actually needed. But THAT dealer had the worst sales people. Go figure.
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Rusting sub frame
Hi guys anybody else having the same trouble? May 2019 8000 miles this cannot be normal!!! Waiting to hear back from Ford.
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