4.0 skip/misfire/bucking
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4.0 skip/misfire/bucking
i have heard afew of these engines have this problem. i just happen to have one that does it too. the guy i bought my truck from says the truck did it since it was almost new (idk why he didnt take it back to ford while it was still under warranty) but anyways in the lower rmps like anything under 2,000 it makes this sputtering noise while it idles. when i drive it it bucks alot until it either let off the gas or push it harder. i have replaced the plugs, wires, coil pack, cleaned the k&n. everything was stock on the truck when i got it by the way so whenever i added the k&n and throttle body spacer it didnt change anything. but i found on the ranger forums that i should clean the MAF. i did. it seemed better for a few minutes but maybe it was just me though. not sure. but what else could be the problem? should i get a new MAF? im stuck on this one. i hate not bein able to drive it with out it jerking at a steady speed.
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I'm thinking it's electrical in nature. Usually a hard miss or stuble is.
I'd start off with two things.
1) Disconnect, clean with spray electrical contact cleaner, and apply some dilectric grease to the main wiring harness connections. Especially where the PCM connects to it. Might also do the MAF connector and the Crank position connection, as well as the cam position sensor connector.
2) Disconnect the battery, turn on the headlights, wait 3-5 minutes, turn off lights, and reconnect. Then put it through the idle learning process and see how it runs.
That will only cost you $5 and will rule out a whole lot of problem areas. (especially if it's not setting a code)
If those don't help... I'd next look into replacing the crank and cam position sensors.
Rich
I'd start off with two things.
1) Disconnect, clean with spray electrical contact cleaner, and apply some dilectric grease to the main wiring harness connections. Especially where the PCM connects to it. Might also do the MAF connector and the Crank position connection, as well as the cam position sensor connector.
2) Disconnect the battery, turn on the headlights, wait 3-5 minutes, turn off lights, and reconnect. Then put it through the idle learning process and see how it runs.
That will only cost you $5 and will rule out a whole lot of problem areas. (especially if it's not setting a code)
If those don't help... I'd next look into replacing the crank and cam position sensors.
Rich
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The PCM is on your firewall at the top.
Resetting the PCM (and KAM) will force the PCM to re-learn everything. Everything from idle, tranny functions, and adaptive learning stratagies.
Since you say its been doing it for a long time.. I suspect its a bad connectoion and/or the crank position sensor. But I also like to do the cheapest and easiest things first. Making sure the connections are good and the PCM is cleared will give you a solid base to start from.
Resetting the PCM (and KAM) will force the PCM to re-learn everything. Everything from idle, tranny functions, and adaptive learning stratagies.
Since you say its been doing it for a long time.. I suspect its a bad connectoion and/or the crank position sensor. But I also like to do the cheapest and easiest things first. Making sure the connections are good and the PCM is cleared will give you a solid base to start from.
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Yep.. battery first. (forgot to mention that)
Spray electrical cleaners don't leave a residue.
And don't put too much dilectric grease on them Just a very small dab of it on each little hole or plug. You don't want so much on there that electricity might flow between two circuts. Just a little dab with a toothpick.
Rich
Spray electrical cleaners don't leave a residue.
And don't put too much dilectric grease on them Just a very small dab of it on each little hole or plug. You don't want so much on there that electricity might flow between two circuts. Just a little dab with a toothpick.
Rich
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Same here buckleing problem but i was told it is my EPC
https://www.ranger-forums.com/forum2...ht=trans+thump
https://www.ranger-forums.com/forum2...ht=trans+thump
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i havent even messed with the thing lately. lets say i pull that (which i did before but only for a min. because i wasnt sure what it could mess up) what will happen if thats the issue? what am i looking for? the truck has always done if w/ me and the guy i bought it from so i pretty but am lost on the problem. but by the way it does do it at light throttle pressure and at idle.
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i havent even messed with the thing lately. lets say i pull that (which i did before but only for a min. because i wasnt sure what it could mess up) what will happen if thats the issue? what am i looking for? the truck has always done if w/ me and the guy i bought it from so i pretty but am lost on the problem. but by the way it does do it at light throttle pressure and at idle.
http://free-auto-repair-advice.blogs...gr-system.html
http://www.tomco-inc.com/Tech_Tips/ttt36.pdf
What'll hapen is the PCM SHOULD see a problem with EGR. The CEL will illuminate, a code will set and the truck will run without the EGR vavle opening (Because you disconnected it- it CAN'T open).
If it runs without the surging, you have an EGR problem.
You can reset the CEL by disconnecting the battery and turning on the headlights.
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http://free-auto-repair-advice.blogs...gr-system.html
http://www.tomco-inc.com/Tech_Tips/ttt36.pdf
What'll hapen is the PCM SHOULD see a problem with EGR. The CEL will illuminate, a code will set and the truck will run without the EGR vavle opening (Because you disconnected it- it CAN'T open).
If it runs without the surging, you have an EGR problem.
You can reset the CEL by disconnecting the battery and turning on the headlights.
http://www.tomco-inc.com/Tech_Tips/ttt36.pdf
What'll hapen is the PCM SHOULD see a problem with EGR. The CEL will illuminate, a code will set and the truck will run without the EGR vavle opening (Because you disconnected it- it CAN'T open).
If it runs without the surging, you have an EGR problem.
You can reset the CEL by disconnecting the battery and turning on the headlights.
CEL isnt a problem, i got access to a scaner. already got A CEL anyway so it wouldnt make a difference to me. well im bout to go to advance for my ball joints. ill pull it off and see how it does.
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EGR Valve-Just exactly where is it located????
I put on the new fuel filter, Cleaned the MAF and I still have the Bucking/skip stuff., From what I am reading here I need to deal with the EGR. I looked and looked but could not find it. The Delta valve is on the LH Fender is see the hoses from that point. There was a 9.5mm vacuum hose that goes to the air intake just behind the TPS and it was in preety bad shape(9 years old), so that has been replaced. I know what an egr looks like and am very familiar with them but i cant seem to find it. could it be under that coil pack thing?
Am i blind???
Am i blind???