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4wd Low gear!!!??? need help

Okay, so as I went into 4 low the other day, and it would not engage. as I did however try(weather a good idea or not) I jiggled the auto gear shift back and forth (not from gear to gear) just as a jiggle. thinking it would engage. My question is why is this becomeing a problem? and is there anything that I can do to save myself some money as far as any repairs that might have to be made
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auto tranny in neutral - FOOT ON BRAKE ??
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Stuff happens like that on my friends sometimes. He has to back up like 20 feet to disengage 4LO somehow iono he told me and i was like WOAH. Is this just one time or many?
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auto tranny in neutral - FOOT ON BRAKE ??
x2 also give it a second in nuetral till you hear the click sound of the tcase engaging and such. SOmetimes it takes a while.
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okay thank you for your input!!...REMEMBERING not sure if foot was on brake does that matter?????.......... okay I now have a new question as got me to thinking is there any RIGHT or WRONG way tobe shifting into 4wd as I was told with a auto its okay tobe in N and shift into 4H then into 4L and another told me to shift while in motion as I never have done that I have always done the N stop then go into desired 4H or 4L ummm giving me somethings to consider here as I sit here thinking about it lol thank you for your help guys... as for normally I dont need the 4 w as I only been useing it for yard type stuff pulling tractor out of ditches and such not to tear up the yard and I have gone a few rounds in the woods in my life I never REALLY needed 4wd lol
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IIRC, form the owenrs manual or supplement 4wd guide.


4hi on the fly at any speed unless its below freezing then slower than 45.

4lo In neutral going less than 5 mph with brakes applied.
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Mines a brand new truck and I have to come to a full stop. Put it in Neutral, foot on brake, then switch it. Generally it takes a good 5 seconds before it enguages too.

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When I bought my truck from the dealership I was told that 4hi is shift on the fly under 50 mph unless it is cold then it is 45mph. As for 4low you have to come to a complete stop and then shift to neutral, the wait then shift to 4low. It does not matter if you are in 2hi or 4hi, you still have to stop and go to neutral. I had a slight problem with this when I bought the truck it would make a loud clunk noise when engaging into 4low, but it was because I was shifting too fast.
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When I bought my truck from the dealership I was told

The salesman told me my truck had a v8.

Honestly, I don't trust any salesmen. They want a bigger paycheck so they will feed you whatever bs they can to make it happen. The owners manual is a better place to look, at least its a legal document you can use against them.


When mine shifts into 4lo, it sounds and feels like a small hammer engaging the gears. Its very quiet if your rolling just a tad.
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from my 2004 Ford Ranger owners manual

shift into 4WD Hi any speed up to 80MPH
wheels must all be turning at same speed (no slipping)
no mention made of temperature

shift into 4WD Lo in automatic transmission in neutral, foot on brake


This can be done from 2WD or 4WD Hi, but the switch passes by the 4WD Hi position on the way to 4WD Lo
it may seem like it takes '5 seconds' to engage, but it is really just a second or two
if you do not have your foot on the brake it will not switch into or out of 4WD Lo
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Yeah, the brake is the part that most people forget. Make sure you're stepping on the brake relatively hard. Sometimes i've just rested my foot on the pedal and it wouldn't go.
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IIRC, form the owenrs manual or supplement 4wd guide.


4hi on the fly at any speed unless its below freezing then slower than 45.

4lo In neutral going less than 5 mph with brakes applied.

wow, really? i never go above like 30 or 35 in 4 hi, can i?? switching at 50 seems scary...
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I have never switch while moving always been told to go into N then hit desired 4H or 4L ummm lol kinda worried about trying it as well lol anyhow you know up until this problem came up I had never had any problems with either gear that nor really I try not to go into REALLY rough stuff as this IS my daily driver and also a company truck as for us here in NC have a few we went out at a 4x4 park for STOCK and haveing the step bars I did pretty dang well good luck to you guys have fun wheelin as I know I will
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no mention made of temperature



Keep in mind the pvh trucks have a clutch in the t-case to bring the drive line up to speed. Its very similar to the ac clutch.

After everything is spinning, the hubs engage. Nice idea, poor design.

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wow, really? i never go above like 30 or 35 in 4 hi, can i?? switching at 50 seems scary...
Ford claims it can be done.

Personally if I know im going to need 4wd I will lock it before I get stuck.

It cant be good for the clutch in the tcase.
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my comments are for 2000 and newer trucks
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I still have problems with mine. Tried the usual, but now I wonder if anything connected with the brake lights or switch might not be working for my 4Lo to not make it switch. 4 Hi works fine, but I get no action whatsoever when I switch it to 4Lo.
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never ever had a problem with mine but then again ive never ever really needed it
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I went 4x4in this weekend at the beach and didnt have any problems
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Mines a brand new truck and I have to come to a full stop. Put it in Neutral, foot on brake, then switch it. Generally it takes a good 5 seconds before it enguages too.

Rich
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The salesman told me my truck had a v8.

Honestly, I don't trust any salesmen. They want a bigger paycheck so they will feed you whatever bs they can to make it happen.
I love knowing more than the salesmen. I love how the hit the "high points" with their sales pitch. "And here we have the coolant resevoir, there is the oil cap, this is of course the larger V6, great for resale value" etc etc. Thats usually when I start spouting off technical information about the truck and why I'm really interested in looking at it. I could care less what the oil cap looks like lol. The salesman usually stops trying to "sell" me the vehicle after that. They know they are out classed.
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I love knowing more than the salesmen. I love how the hit the "high points" with their sales pitch. "And here we have the coolant resevoir, there is the oil cap, this is of course the larger V6, great for resale value" etc etc. Thats usually when I start spouting off technical information about the truck and why I'm really interested in looking at it. I could care less what the oil cap looks like lol. The salesman usually stops trying to "sell" me the vehicle after that. They know they are out classed.

I walked on to the lot, and pointed I want that one. Then began working on the price. At that point they played the v8 card. Needless to say we went on a field trip. Resulting in the price I wanted as the sales men was a tool.

After i bought the truck I stop by for a free car wash and the salesmen bummed money off of me and a ride to McDonald's.
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you see when I used to own my own car lot I however was as honest as I could be if I did not know something I would find it out for the customer I had a lot of repeat business that way to word of mouth travels fast but anyhow thats for all the comments and feedback as above I stated that I had been 4 wheelin down at the beach and yes I am glad I put it in as the sand was DEEP and the RUTS were horrible lol and I did more reserch and like one said before with mine you have to stop go into Neutral get on brake and switch to either I however play it safe I go into high first then give it a good couple secs then go on into low if need be again thanks for all comments and feedback
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