any turbos available
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I know of 2 vehicals with sohc engines that have beed ' turboed '. One alledgedly made 450 wheel HP ( was on ebay at that ) , the other is an Exploder Doug ( www.bamachips ) was doing a tune for.
Bottle or blower would be a more cost efficient option and easier to manage.
D.
Bottle or blower would be a more cost efficient option and easier to manage.
D.
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Ive come across this TWIN Turbo SOHC before...apparently they sell kits...call that number at the bottom and let us know if anyone answers.
TWIN Turbo SOHC
TWIN Turbo SOHC
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Actually, When I called, They stated they ' build ' the whole kit themselves and will do an install and tune for you.. for close to 6 grand
Call it 6000$ for 300 rwhp. The kit defeats emissions as well.
Might as well get a toarch and put in a trustworthy/years of developement 302/5.0 .
Where a Turboed/Juiced/blown 4.0 tops out at, a SBFord is just beginning... naturally aspired and waiting for more bolt on power.
Until developement for the 4.0 SOHC in the Mustang is in full swing, its pointless to hunt down expensive custom kits. By this time next year ( as we've all heard from companies before ) , there should be some offerings in Superchargers and Turbos for the Mustangs.
D.
Call it 6000$ for 300 rwhp. The kit defeats emissions as well.
Might as well get a toarch and put in a trustworthy/years of developement 302/5.0 .
Where a Turboed/Juiced/blown 4.0 tops out at, a SBFord is just beginning... naturally aspired and waiting for more bolt on power.
Until developement for the 4.0 SOHC in the Mustang is in full swing, its pointless to hunt down expensive custom kits. By this time next year ( as we've all heard from companies before ) , there should be some offerings in Superchargers and Turbos for the Mustangs.
D.
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Originally Posted by zabeard
a supercharger takes poswer to make more power, a turbo, doesnt need any extra power. all it needs is exhaust flow. turbos are more efficient. im sure there are other fancy terms and stuff like that but that is what i know.
Example: When I was younger and was going to completely mod up my focus, I did lots of research in to superchargers and turbos, there is just not enough room under the hood of a focus to have a good supercharger system, because the intake is on the back of the motor you can't put a twin screw or roots system back there and have intake runners long enough to make the power anywhere useful, and there is not a good place to mount a centrif supercharger either because where can you really put it, and the centrif kits that are out there for focus'es still make all the power near redline and that might be good for all out racing but for a DD its useless. So yeah little front drive 4 bangers yes turbos are king.
On a mustang however where there is enough room to mount up a good supercharger system. You pretty much can take your pick which you want. A twinscrew, or roots sytem will make by far the best low end torque and would work the best in a DD, and do very well at the track. A turbo set up wont have as much low end torque while the turbo is spooling up but one it gets going it should make more power even at the same boost levels. A centrif supercharger might even give the best of both worlds nice low end(better then turbo but not as good as a twin screw) and nice high end(not as good as turbo but maybe better then a twinscrew)
What is nice about centrif superchargers and turbo's they are upgradeable so if you want more power down the road or you get into race later on you can take out the old centrif superchargers or turbo's and put a bigger one in.
So back to putting something in a ranger. All out racing turbo, DD twinscrew or roots, centrif would be nice also. I am not aware of any kits to do either a few root supercharger were coming out but I don't know if they ever make it. There is a Ranger 3.0L kit out made by wipple superchargers but nothing that I am aware of for 4.0's.
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another plus with the turbo is 3lbs of boost will make power like 5-6lbs of boost from a supercharger. idk, maybe im bias. but id rather have a turbo, turbos usually require less maintinance. plus wouldnt it be better to run few pounds of boost to achive the same power?
superchargers are great and all, but if i was given a choice id get a turbo. in turbo systems LAG is becomming less and less of a problem, who gives a crap if you dont have any power under 1200-1500 rpm... lol i know i dont.
you can configure a turbo to give you the power where you want it, im sur eyou can with a supercharger too but, i like the less boost on the engine and maybe in time you could run the same amount of boost as the supercharger makes but make even more power.
superchargers are great and all, but if i was given a choice id get a turbo. in turbo systems LAG is becomming less and less of a problem, who gives a crap if you dont have any power under 1200-1500 rpm... lol i know i dont.
you can configure a turbo to give you the power where you want it, im sur eyou can with a supercharger too but, i like the less boost on the engine and maybe in time you could run the same amount of boost as the supercharger makes but make even more power.
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Originally Posted by Ranger1
There is a Ranger 3.0L kit out made by wipple superchargers but nothing that I am aware of for 4.0's.
The one doug was tuning is an STS turbo. It's the one that mounts in the rear of the vehicle. This one is practical for a DIY guy to fab up their own kit because you don't have to hassle with fabbing up the exhaust manifolds, y-pipes, etc.
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I believe if they don't have a prefebbed kit you can easliy do it yourself. It's all about routing pipe back up to the throttle body from the rear turbo. It is the best solution for someone wanting a turbo. It was slammed pretty hard when it was introduced but it seems to be working well and producing power. It seems to be a viable option.
Personally sc vs turbo is not an issue for me, ease of installation and kit completeness is what I would strive for. Look at it this way. If one nets you 14.3 in the 1/4 mile and one nets you 14.6, what is the big deal. Dude, you're in the 14's!
Historically superchargers meet all emmissions because the exhaust is sent back through the cat and muffler. The blow-off valve on a turbo sends raw exhaust out in the open air. This is a big thing to consider wth new sniffer tests and inspections hitting everybody. The STS should solve that because it is after cat air that is turning the turbo.
Personally sc vs turbo is not an issue for me, ease of installation and kit completeness is what I would strive for. Look at it this way. If one nets you 14.3 in the 1/4 mile and one nets you 14.6, what is the big deal. Dude, you're in the 14's!
Historically superchargers meet all emmissions because the exhaust is sent back through the cat and muffler. The blow-off valve on a turbo sends raw exhaust out in the open air. This is a big thing to consider wth new sniffer tests and inspections hitting everybody. The STS should solve that because it is after cat air that is turning the turbo.
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Originally Posted by zabeard
another plus with the turbo is 3lbs of boost will make power like 5-6lbs of boost from a supercharger. idk, maybe im bias. but id rather have a turbo, turbos usually require less maintinance. plus wouldnt it be better to run few pounds of boost to achive the same power?
superchargers are great and all, but if i was given a choice id get a turbo. in turbo systems LAG is becomming less and less of a problem, who gives a crap if you dont have any power under 1200-1500 rpm... lol i know i dont.
you can configure a turbo to give you the power where you want it, im sur eyou can with a supercharger too but, i like the less boost on the engine and maybe in time you could run the same amount of boost as the supercharger makes but make even more power.
superchargers are great and all, but if i was given a choice id get a turbo. in turbo systems LAG is becomming less and less of a problem, who gives a crap if you dont have any power under 1200-1500 rpm... lol i know i dont.
you can configure a turbo to give you the power where you want it, im sur eyou can with a supercharger too but, i like the less boost on the engine and maybe in time you could run the same amount of boost as the supercharger makes but make even more power.
I don't know about makeing more power with less boost though, yeah it makes sense because the supercharger takes power to run it but I don't know about that, at the high end yeah. The last dyno sheet I saw in "muscle mustang and fast ford" mag they did a good test of all types of forced induction at the same boost levels. The turbo yes made the most power yes by far actually, but the power curve was nowhere useful for a DD unless daily driving for you most of your time is spent near redline. The boost never picked up until 2500 RPM at that point the twinscrew had it by 150 horsepower. That was on a 2003/2004 cobra motor. DD I will take a twinscrew or roots system any day. All out racing twin turbo all the way.