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IR0NS1N 03-17-2007 04:43 PM

bama Torque vs Performance tune
 
In your guys' opnion which gives the best 0-60 performance? Realistically this is really all I need the chip to do because I only go to about 0-55 on surface streets.

r0ng5 03-17-2007 05:30 PM

i would have to say performance. Performance has more oomph up top, where the torque is better down low.

but I have heard from gary (redfx2.. or something like that), that the torque tune was better at the drags.

IR0NS1N 03-17-2007 05:35 PM

hmm very interesting

TommyC 03-17-2007 06:23 PM

I read that the performance tune is for over 3K RPMS. Not sure if it's true though.

r0ng5 03-17-2007 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by TommyC
I read that the performance tune is for over 3K RPMS. Not sure if it's true though.

i would say so. Whenever you rev with the performance tune, it's usually above 2.5K that you feel the power. When i was offroading once with the socal guys in gorman, i was slipping all over the place. i loaded my torque tune, and i did well the rest of the way. (same degree of difficulty slopes, hills, etc)

Urandaman 03-17-2007 11:18 PM

from what i gather from ^these few posts... torque tune would be better for daily driving since the power is at lower rpms??

r0ng5 03-18-2007 01:04 AM

performance is more for saving gas...

tekrsq 03-18-2007 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by Urandaman
from what i gather from ^these few posts... torque tune would be better for daily driving since the power is at lower rpms??

Agreed. Performance is definetly more noticeable at the higher rpms.

IR0NS1N 03-18-2007 01:47 PM

Yeah I read performance is 3 grand up and torque is from 3 grand down. I wish there was one that did the whole RPM range like combine the too hah. I just want to be driving normal and feel an increase and sure feel one when I got to pass some one up wide open.

mj550 03-18-2007 02:37 PM

Yeah I agree, I wish there was just one tune that covered both upper and lower rpms, I dont like the fact or only having one or the other at a time.

Urandaman 03-18-2007 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by r0ng5
performance is more for saving gas...


does the performance save gas over the torque?

r0ng5 03-18-2007 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by Urandaman
does the performance save gas over the torque?

yes

TommyC 03-18-2007 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by r0ng5
yes

Even if you are typically under 3K rpms?

TORQUERULES 03-19-2007 06:42 AM

I haven't tested them back to back to see which one is fastest to 60, but for daily driving I actually like the Performance tune better. I like how it shifts though the gears better. It seems that with the Torque tune it wants to hang in a higher gear longer than it should when climbing hills or accerating on an on-ramp or on the highway. The Performance tune will downshift sooner. For instance, I drive mostly highway to work and if I enter an on-ramp at about 20-30mph the truck will want to stay in 3rd gear when I briskly accelerate onto the highway. I have to go pretty deep in the throttle to make it downshift and then it is more violent when it does since I am hammering the throttle more. In Performance mode, it downshifts like it should. Maybe the extra torque is keeping the truck from downshifting? Who knows? That is what it does for me. Now if most of your driving is off-road or in the city, then the Torque tune is great, but for me the Performance tune is easier to live with and I think the truck runs much better overall with that tune in. Just my 2 cents...

lifted97ranger 03-19-2007 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by TommyC
Even if you are typically under 3K rpms?

yes because to achieve more torque, there has to be more fuel dumped into the combustion chamber......

wydopnthrtl 03-19-2007 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by TORQUERULES
I have to go pretty deep in the throttle to make it downshift and then it is more violent when it does since I am hammering the throttle more.

That's exactly what you want a towing tune to do.

Rich

greygooseranger 03-19-2007 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by wydopnthrtl
That's exactly what you want a towing tune to do.

Rich

Yeah, when you are pulling you want the torque converter to stay locked. I know on my blaozer it had a tow haul mode, and when it was active it would hold second gear (4 spd trans) until the pedal was almost down to the floor and shift nice and firm.....

I wonder what would be the best tune for someone like me that has a stick? Since I control the trans no matter what...

TommyC 03-19-2007 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by lifted97ranger
yes because to achieve more torque, there has to be more fuel dumped into the combustion chamber......

Does the performance tune have much, if any benefit, when under 3K RPMs? I drive days without going over 3K RPMs.

TORQUERULES 03-19-2007 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by wydopnthrtl
That's exactly what you want a towing tune to do.

Rich

Exactly my thoughts. Should have mentioned that. The thing is, that most people are using it as a daily driver tune and should be aware of this. Thanks for pointing out something I failed to mention. My bad.

TORQUERULES 03-19-2007 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by TommyC
Does the performance tune have much, if any benefit, when under 3K RPMs? I drive days without going over 3K RPMs.


IMHO, yes it does. It has helped my truck everywhere. My favorite tune by far.

But remember that I do very little in-town driving with my truck.

TORQUERULES 03-19-2007 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by graygooseranger
Yeah, when you are pulling you want the torque converter to stay locked. I know on my blaozer it had a tow haul mode, and when it was active it would hold second gear (4 spd trans) until the pedal was almost down to the floor and shift nice and firm.....

I wonder what would be the best tune for someone like me that has a stick? Since I control the trans no matter what...


Performance.

lifted97ranger 03-19-2007 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by TommyC
Does the performance tune have much, if any benefit, when under 3K RPMs? I drive days without going over 3K RPMs.

i am sure it does, but it is mostly designed for above 3,000 rpm's........it will save gas under 3,000 rpm's....

wydopnthrtl 03-20-2007 06:39 AM

I don't suppose you by chance know if both the torque and performance tune still skip 2nd gear at light to moderate throttle?

Rich

lifted97ranger 03-20-2007 06:40 AM

mine doesn't skip second gear.........i feel it shift every time... :006:

TORQUERULES 03-20-2007 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by wydopnthrtl
I don't suppose you by chance know if both the torque and performance tune still skip 2nd gear at light to moderate throttle?

Rich

Mine doesn't.


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