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Old 12-01-2005
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Blown head gasket or cracked head

Yeah so my 99 with the 4.0 has 65,000 miles on it, and its is a pristine, babied truck. Well it started runnin like crap today, and I smelled some antifreeze. I only bought it 2 months ago so it still has a warranty from the dealership. Took it in and the mechanic said he found aintifreeze in the #4 cylinder. so no my warranty covers a cracked head but not a head gasket. Anyone had this before at this low of mileage? Also how tough would it be for me to put the gasket back on myself? (dealership quoted me 850 JUST FOR ONE SIDE!!)
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never heard of that, but head gaskets can be difficult to replace unless youv done it before... you have to take a bunch of stuff off the engine just to be able to get the head off so if youve never built engines or somthing like that i wouldnt do it... thast really expensive... idk what to do about that...
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Alright. If you took it to the dealership and he found antifreeze in #4, he probably just found it on a plug. They wouldn't tear down the engine without your approval first. That would mean you'd have to approve that $850 dollars first so that they get paid when it comes apart in case it is the gasket. If it were the head then they would just change it to warranty and you wouldn't have to worry about money but that's just S.O.P. at all 3 shops I've worked at. It is a bit of work. Not $850 dollars worth in my opinion but if you've never done it before it's not the best choice of engines to start on. They've pretty much got you by the ***** here though how they word things. They know you can take it to a small shop and have a head or head gasket done for half that much but if you have it torn down at another place and it is a head they washed their hands of it and you're further in the hole. So the best bet is to just let them do the one side for you at the dealer. I know you hate hearing it but it's a no-win situation. If you decline to have the job done I'm 99% sure they reserve the right to cancel your powertrain warranty. Damned contracts.
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So it's a "dealership" warranty? I know in some states, you do NOT have to have the dealer provide the work, only proof that it was needed and done and then they have to pay any reasonable prevailing rate. But that might be more trouble than it's worth if they make you fight for it.
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What tells me this guy joined just to ask this question?
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prolly cause he did. or he will find a new home here... who knos who cares...
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I know someone who replaced them on a ranger.. It took him a few months to get it back running again lol... and he said that it was a bigger job than he expected it to be
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What tells me this guy joined just to ask this question?
Actually I joined a few days ago and this happenned to my truck today, so thanks for the .02 cents dueschbag. Please only comment if you have something relevant to say, not if you are trying to let me know your the coolest guy on earth.
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Actually I joined a few days ago and this happenned to my truck today, so thanks for the .02 cents dueschbag. Please only comment if you have something relevant to say, not if you are trying to let me know your the coolest guy on earth.
Hey I offered you my advice. Whether you liked hearing it or not is your problem. I didn't try being an ******* to you. If you want to call me a DOUCHE bag, that's fine. I was just trying to make conversation here and you took it as an insult. We all joined this site at whatever given time that we did for a REASON, whether it was to ask for help on our truck or to see what size wheels we could fit on our truck or we needed someone to rant to so why would it matter if you only joined this site just because you had a problem? Hell I'm on a Pontiac Vibe forum just so I can try selling a set of key fobs for them so why in the world would I insult you even if you just joined today or Monday or whenever you had a problem? I'm here to help you or anyone else any way possible. Just don't ask for advice if you don't want to hear the answers. I'm SORRY if I offended you by trying to break the ice here in a unconventional way. And I'm definitely not the coolest guy on Earth. That Tom guy from MySpace actually is.

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I'm not tryin hate on you. But from what you just told me, it makes me question the reason for your comment of why I joined even more?? But whatever, I am not a grudge holdin man so it as far as I am concerned we are all good in the hood. (plus I am a little pissy with having to deal with all this today, talk to me tommorrow after I have spent the day snowboarding for 2 dollars and I sure I will be much happier)
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hey man i got the wrong kinda vibe when i started posting so dont feel lke they are givin u a bunch of crap... its just a lil different round here!!!! get used to opinions if u r gonna stay
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And I'm definitely not the coolest guy on Earth. That Tom guy from MySpace actually is.
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On an OHV engine.. Pull the air intake, disconnect the wiring harness, the intake manifold with the injectors and rails.. Accessories, valve covers.. pull the heads.. Go in reverse order to put it back together. Use a good torque wrench when re-assembeling.

Case of beer, a friend or 2 helping.. should be an afternoon project at the longest. Be GLAD its an OHV engine and not an OHC.
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On an OHV engine.. Pull the air intake, disconnect the wiring harness, the intake manifold with the injectors and rails.. Accessories, valve covers.. pull the heads.. Go in reverse order to put it back together. Use a good torque wrench when re-assembeling.

Case of beer, a friend or 2 helping.. should be an afternoon project at the longest. Be GLAD its an OHV engine and not an OHC.
yeah what he said...

one thing though...i have to ask, cuz i'm not 100% sure, but doesn't that engine use the "TTY bolts?"

If so, i would highly advise replacing them. They are designed for one use and one use only. Yeah, i've heard of people re-using them in the past, but if you value your engine, i would replace them if that is the case.
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What tells me this guy joined just to ask this question?

who cares if that's why he joined? isn't that what we're here for? To help other Ranger owner's out?

sounds like you joined cuz you thought we were holding a popularity contest or something....
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My 4.0 OHV has 161,000 miles on it and besides having to replace the camshaft syncronizer it has been problem free.Ihave heard of the head gaskets being a problem on some of these motors but I guess I have been lucky.
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On an OHV engine.. Pull the air intake, disconnect the wiring harness, the intake manifold with the injectors and rails.. Accessories, valve covers.. pull the heads.. Go in reverse order to put it back together. Use a good torque wrench when re-assembeling.

Case of beer, a friend or 2 helping.. should be an afternoon project at the longest. Be GLAD its an OHV engine and not an OHC.
You forgot about the exhaust which can be the biggest pain when doing it in the driveway.
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You forgot about the exhaust which can be the biggest pain when doing it in the driveway.
Naw, the exhaust pipes have enough flex that once the head bolts are pulled, you should be able to use a ' prying tool ' ( IE carefully uses cro bar/screwdriver watching as to not chip/dent, gouge a head surface/block surface ) and slip the old gaskets out.

I'd unbolt the end of the exhaust manifold from the Y-pipe before the 6 bolts on the head. Its easier to weld on a y-pipe ( if it were to break ) then to go tapping on a head or having to hemicoil an exhaust manifold bolt.
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Naw, the exhaust pipes have enough flex that once the head bolts are pulled, you should be able to use a ' prying tool ' ( IE carefully uses cro bar/screwdriver watching as to not chip/dent, gouge a head surface/block surface ) and slip the old gaskets out.

I'd unbolt the end of the exhaust manifold from the Y-pipe before the 6 bolts on the head. Its easier to weld on a y-pipe ( if it were to break ) then to go tapping on a head or having to hemicoil an exhaust manifold bolt.
Yeah. if you're going to just change the head gasket that's cool but if you've gone that far you need to pay the 30 bucks and have a machine shop check the head and surface it. The last time I had it done was on a 2.2 Dodge engine and it only cost me $27 to have one head checked and surfaced flat again.
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I received the most wonderful news on saturday (thanks everyone for your helpful comments) but I bought my ranger only 2 months ago and it came with a "Gold Check Certified Warranty" for free that covered the drive line for 2 months or 2000 miles. Well this problem happened with 1 week and 100 miles left on the warranty. It ended up being a cracked head so the warranty company has to cover it. Now instead of spending 800-1200 getting it fixed, I PAY ONLY 50 DOLLARS!!! for the deductible and get a new head put on. Thanks again
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I received the most wonderful news on saturday (thanks everyone for your helpful comments) but I bought my ranger only 2 months ago and it came with a "Gold Check Certified Warranty" for free that covered the drive line for 2 months or 2000 miles. Well this problem happened with 1 week and 100 miles left on the warranty. It ended up being a cracked head so the warranty company has to cover it. Now instead of spending 800-1200 getting it fixed, I PAY ONLY 50 DOLLARS!!! for the deductible and get a new head put on. Thanks again
Congrats man. Sorry for pissing you off. Bad karma gave me a kidney stone this weekend in the middle of a concert. So your weekend turned out much better then mine.
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